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    Quote Originally Posted by snapper View Post
    I fear you are again mistaken. Starter for 10: Who is this?

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    Let me give a you clue... He lives at Gournay Court:

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    Was brought up by the family Nanny, went to Eaton and Trinity College Oxford, worked for a while in the city, together with his Wife is worth around £150m, his Wife being Helena Anne Beatrix Wentworth Fitzwilliam de Chair, the daughter of Lady Juliet Tadgell and Victor Hervey, 6th Marquess of Bristol... Manages an investment company called Somerset Holdings that for the most part banks offshore and the HQ of which he moved to Dublin following the Brexit vote.

    Or Boris, I mean again Eaton and Oxford, where he was a member of the 'toffs gone wild club' known as the 'Bullingdon Club' (favourite pastime smashing and defecating all over restaurants and then paying to keep it quiet). Boris did at least study Classics. Apparently had a bust of Pericles on his desk at the FCO. Boris earns £100,000 per article from the Daily Torygraph...

    Cameron too was an old Etonian - Oxford alumni. He is a second cousin of the Queens.

    Nigel Farage: Dulwhich College, his Father worked on the Stock Exchange, so the son followed having failed academically at school which made Oxbridge impossible. Farage worked on the commodities markets (mostly metals it is said) married twice (second time to a German Lady) still lives where his parents lived (apart from London, Brussels flats etc) in Downe (which is actually where Darwin lived). We used to walk there sometimes on a Sunday when I was younger and my parents moved to Cudham. Farage has made a fortune from his political 'career' such that he despite his hatred of the EU he refuses to give up his EU pension and can currently afford a private plane. There are loads of rackets for elected MPs regarding second homes and expenses - which UKIP was recently forced to repay some £100,000, which according to Farage is a "small donation". Tell that to people doing three jobs and 60/70hrs per week for minimum wage to feed their children....

    So if you want 'elites' I think you are barking up the wrong tree.
    All this is general knowledge and doesn't address the fact that they respect the referendum result. All except Cameroon, who has proven himself to be a liar of the Bliar stable. By the way you should try doing a week stint being battered by the north sea before you start complaining about 70 hour weeks, when you are out on the ocean you don't count hours you just collapse through exhaustion if you're lucky.

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    Well first I think the referendum on Brexit was surrounded by lies "500m per week (or whatever number they dreamed up) for the NHS" was blatant BS. All the current Government's research shows that Britain is less wealthy by any form of Brexit. Second we know it was subject attempts to influence it. Third the use illegal of money - which we still have not been told where it came from; the criminal inquiry is still ongoing apparently but I could hazard a guess now: All these things make a case that the first vote was criminally financed false propaganda victory and nothing more.

    Nor now more reality has dawned on the British people - like these idiots who once said "a trade deal if we Brexit will be the easiest thing ever" but now insist it will be 'even easier' if they leave with a 'no deal' first, who's snake oil is wearing thin - your hated 'elite' Brexiteers among them - it is no reason why the British cannot change their minds. As I have said before not all who voted to 'Leave' voted for the same thing. Nobody thought it would cost them personally but they swallowed the lies. A second vote would be more democracy not less.


    Yea I do not fancy your job at sea though I know lack of sleep being a Mater. I know the sea and her ways and have seen storms and fog at sea myself, capsised once in a 28ft fibre glass tub and did a 360, fortunately the mast stayed put but I am more a pleasure yachts-Lady than a working sea farer. Diving and visiting places and drinking retsina in Greek islands is more my thing. Sailed from Rodos/Rhodes (Hellas) to Alexandria earlier this year. Lost a forward hatch on the way back which was a devil to fix but as you know these problems at sea are part of what makes it fascinating and a challenge that you long to experience again - and the sunrises, stars, and sunsets you sometimes get. I would not do it for a job though maybe because then I would start to hate it. I paint but do not want to be ordered to paint something or someone if you understand my meaning; that would ruin the pleasure of 'just doing because I feel it' for me. I wish you calm seas and many cod!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapper View Post
    Well first I think the referendum on Brexit was surrounded by lies "500m per week (or whatever number they dreamed up) for the NHS" was blatant BS. All the current Government's research shows that Britain is less wealthy by any form of Brexit. Second we know it was subject attempts to influence it. Third the use illegal of money - which we still have not been told where it came from; the criminal inquiry is still ongoing apparently but I could hazard a guess now: All these things make a case that the first vote was criminally financed false propaganda victory and nothing more.

    Nor now more reality has dawned on the British people - like these idiots who once said "a trade deal if we Brexit will be the easiest thing ever" but now insist it will be 'even easier' if they leave with a 'no deal' first, who's snake oil is wearing thin - your hated 'elite' Brexiteers among them - it is no reason why the British cannot change their minds. As I have said before not all who voted to 'Leave' voted for the same thing. Nobody thought it would cost them personally but they swallowed the lies. A second vote would be more democracy not less.


    Yea I do not fancy your job at sea though I know lack of sleep being a Mater. I know the sea and her ways and have seen storms and fog at sea myself, capsised once in a 28ft fibre glass tub and did a 360, fortunately the mast stayed put but I am more a pleasure yachts-Lady than a working sea farer. Diving and visiting places and drinking retsina in Greek islands is more my thing. Sailed from Rodos/Rhodes (Hellas) to Alexandria earlier this year. Lost a forward hatch on the way back which was a devil to fix but as you know these problems at sea are part of what makes it fascinating and a challenge that you long to experience again - and the sunrises, stars, and sunsets you sometimes get. I would not do it for a job though maybe because then I would start to hate it. I paint but do not want to be ordered to paint something or someone if you understand my meaning; that would ruin the pleasure of 'just doing because I feel it' for me. I wish you calm seas and many cod!
    My relatives didn't give a rats arse about the leave campaign which was mortifying dumb. But on your point of numbers, yes they add up. When the UK stops paying into the EU its coffers are inevitably richer, I cant see how they wouldn't be after they are clearly not subsidising EU immigration and the EU its self. And this mistaken belief that the EU can suddenly supplant a significant member state is ridiculous. The EU are playing for time by manipulating historical problem in Ireland. But they will regret that when they realise that the Irish are not so stupid. When a foreign entity plays family against each other the shit will eventually land on the deceitful.

    With regards to the sea , I also have 'Sailed' around Greece, the Ionian sea was kind mostly..the Aegean less so and quite unpredictable but nothing anywhere that I can remember is as violent as the N. Atlantic..I've actually done a 180 somersault and broke my nose against a hydraulic line through sheer power of the sea, lucky I'm not dead!

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    Snapper it was 350 million , the add on the bus stated , lets fund the nhs instead , not we promise to give it , but without the freeloaders from around the world using it we wouldnt have to , anyhoo , May is a treasonous bastard and killed democracy along with MPs who side with her , and made the uk a laffing stock. We legally left on march 29 and a high court case is going on over it but have the peedo protection coop reported it , nooooooo alls quiet on the eastern front .

    If polls are correct Farages brexit party are surging ahead of the tory shite and el al ira cor,bins labor , eu elections are gonna be interesting just like our local elections were .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyr View Post
    But on your point of numbers, yes they add up. When the UK stops paying into the EU its coffers are inevitably richer, I cant see how they wouldn't be after they are clearly not subsidising EU immigration and the EU its self. And this mistaken belief that the EU can suddenly supplant a significant member state is ridiculous. The EU are playing for time by manipulating historical problem in Ireland. But they will regret that when they realise that the Irish are not so stupid. When a foreign entity plays family against each other the shit will eventually land on the deceitful.
    My dear fellow, I am a not an economist myself though I have rudimentary reading of the subject but the 'numbers that add up', making a loss, are not mine at all but the British Governments from the Treasury to the Bank of England, the IMF's, the World Bank's. It is estimated by the BoE that the UK is currently losing £600m per week that other for than the Brexit uncertaintly would have been forthcoming.

    Regarding the Irish border problem there is a contradiction in the British position inherent in their so called desire for a 'hard border' meaning they get to say who is allowed in totally - the dwellers of their European neighbours and allies not being so welcome one would imagine. Firstly what does that say to your neighbours? It is hardly polite. Secondly this migrant labour I know for a fact will make the UK farms less profitable. I used to live in Kent both north and south of the Medway, hundreds of farms all need apples, pears, hops still in a few places, plums, pears, potatoes, cabbages, lettuces and much else picked but the workforce is not there. It was said that the East End Londoners used to come to take the hops but they did not do so any longer when I was there. What then happens to the farmer who cannot get his yield harvested? Does he produce more or less? Does he pay less tax or more for a diminished harvest? Not hard maths to do. Thirdly you cannot have a 'hard border' at Dover and a free for all on the Ulster border... it is just nonsensical. Sure erect fences all around the Channel coast if you want but those wishing to enter will merely go via Ireland and the free border. Hell if they have come Afghanistan or Syria - or even Poland and Romania to work isn't that good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankie View Post
    nooooooo alls quiet on the eastern front .
    No it is not.

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    I'm not quite sure who the traitors are? Those (older gen) Brits who voted for Brexit thinking it's good for Britain, or the younger Brits who failed to vote even though they have some form of a British destiny to inherit.
    I think the very notion that a public referendum on something so pivotal that a speck of a majority can be trusted to shift the course of a nation permanently -- or at least unalterable for a few generations -- is what's traitorous. There is no mandate for this Brexit. There never was. End it.
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    Police stop McDonald's from selling milkshakes near Nigel Farage rally

    Police ordered a McDonald's in Scotland to stop selling milkshakes over fears people would dunk them over Brexit campaigner Nigel Farage, staff said, after a flurry of incidents left prominent far-right activists doused in the creamy liquid.

    Farage, the leader of the Brexit Party, was holding an event in Edinburgh on Friday ahead of next week's European elections.

    But police were concerned that protesters would buy milkshakes from a McDonald's a few hundred meters away with the intention of pouring them on the hardline Brexiteer's head.

    A milkshake-dunking movement in Britain began after video went viral earlier this month showing a protester throwing a McDonald's milkshake over far-right campaigner Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.

    Full story: https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/18/uk/mc...ntl/index.html
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    I hear that getting "milkshaked" is a growing problem in Britain.



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    Apparently Theresa May will try to get her deal through the HoC for the fifth time on June 1st. If she succeeds or not however the 'men in grey suits' have required her resignation as PM after this last throw of her dice. Boris Johnson has proclaimed he will stand... as if that were a surprise.

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