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  • Originally posted by Toby View Post
    Jaguar Land Rover announces 5,000 new jobs in timely boost to UK economy

    Recruitment will take place over the next 12 months, just as UK begins talks to leave EU

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7796671.html
    So Jag is hiring 5000, world wide. Not 5,000 in the UK. Guessing the UK number (most) depends on how hard/soft Brexit is.

    from the article
    JLR, which employs more than 40,000 people globally, said it would hire 1,000 electronic and software engineers as well as 4,000 additional personnel including in manufacturing, most of whom will be based in Britain.

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    • Originally posted by Gun Grape View Post
      So Jag is hiring 5000, world wide. Not 5,000 in the UK. Guessing the UK number (most) depends on how hard/soft Brexit is.

      from the article
      JLR have ambitions to double their workforce in the long term, so its going to happen regardless. JLR have already confirmed a new engine plant expansion at Speke and Wolverhampton with car production returning to Coventry and will be announcing a major investment co-funded by the government into electric car development and production in the Midlands. The National Automotive Innovation Centre is as we type being built which confirms this intention. Lets face it, it is the future and there's a market place outside the EU. So yeh they have to make the necessary investments within the EU and in the UK to sustain and grow their market share.
      'Although the batteries for the I-Pace are being developed in the UK by JLR and Warwick Manufacturing Group, part of Warwick university, they will be manufactured in Austria close to the production of the vehicle itself.'
      Last edited by Toby; 20 Jun 17,, 08:49.

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        • Originally posted by kato View Post
          Brexit effect:

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          and your answer is a series of 'Graphs' ??? Wow ...so Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy are all of a sudden not massively in debt.....France has a welfare system it can afford, Poland and various other Eastern block states don't rely heavily on Germany for a massive handout. Holy shit the EU is paradise, How did the British not realise!

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          • Originally posted by Toby View Post
            and your answer is a series of 'Graphs' ??? Wow ...so Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy are all of a sudden not massively in debt.....France has a welfare system it can afford, Poland and various other Eastern block states don't rely heavily on Germany for a massive handout. Holy shit the EU is paradise, How did the British not realise!
            Yes many European countries have debt problems Toby, including the UK. You make out like we are an island of virtue amoung a sea of miscreants, but (without boring you with a graph) we are pretty much middle of the pile. Our public debt is jaw dropping, our growth anemic and our productivity is abysmal. You probably think Brexit is an antidote to British malais. No chance, especially now austerity has been abandoned by all major parties. We've given up

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            • Originally posted by zara View Post
              Yes many European countries have debt problems Toby, including the UK. You make out like we are an island of virtue amoung a sea of miscreants, but (without boring you with a graph) we are pretty much middle of the pile. Our public debt is jaw dropping, our growth anemic and our productivity is abysmal. You probably think Brexit is an antidote to British malais. No chance, especially now austerity has been abandoned by all major parties. We've given up
              Only we have the ability to pay it off Zara ...where as they depend on us the Northern EU states to pay it off for them. It's not our fault they are historically corrupt and can't pay up to balance their own books!! Austerity is a fools idea of paying off debt....you clearly have ME confused with somebody else!! doesn't surprise me though as YOUR type commonly puts everybody that doesn't agree with YOUR outlook on life in the same bracket!
              Last edited by Toby; 20 Jun 17,, 23:54.

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              • Originally posted by Toby View Post
                Only we have the ability to pay it off Zara ...where as they depend on us the Northern EU states to pay it off for them. It's not our fault they are historically corrupt and can't pay up to balance their own books!! Austerity is a fools idea of paying off debt....you clearly have ME confused with somebody else!! doesn't surprise though as YOUR type commonly puts everybody that doesn't agree with your outlook on life in the same bracket!
                Liberally speaking of course .

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                • and in the famous words of David the Steel "Go back to your constituencies, and prepare for government!".. Meoow!....Shall I roll over now.... please say when!

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                  • Originally posted by Toby View Post
                    Only we have the ability to pay it off Zara ...where as they depend on us the Northern EU states to pay it off for them. It's not our fault they are historically corrupt and can't pay up to balance their own books!! Austerity is a fools idea of paying off debt....you clearly have ME confused with somebody else!! doesn't surprise me though as YOUR type commonly puts everybody that doesn't agree with YOUR outlook on life in the same bracket!
                    Our books are not balanced and haven't been for decades!
                    Pay attention to current Spanish, Romanian, Irish and Bulgarian growth rates. Italy is suspect and Greece is hopeless (The IMF are right!) but the EU as a whole is performing strongly (better than the US by many measures). If you doubt it, just see the miserable yield on bonds from those countries. The market seems to think they're debt is sustainable.

                    Your right austerity normally doesn't work as it stunts growth and raises unemployment. Its generally considered effective before a bubble when businesses are expanding. Unfortunately the UK is way past that stage and as government debt is creeping over 90% we will soon approach a soverign debt crisis. This might be manageable, but we are due a large external shock when and if hard brexit happens. Historical precedent only gives two options here.. massive stimulus and devaluation... or default.

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                    • Originally posted by zara View Post
                      Our books are not balanced and haven't been for decades!
                      Pay attention to current Spanish, Romanian, Irish and Bulgarian growth rates. Italy is suspect and Greece is hopeless (The IMF are right!) but the EU as a whole is performing strongly (better than the US by many measures). If you doubt it, just see the miserable yield on bonds from those countries. The market seems to think they're debt is sustainable.

                      Your right austerity normally doesn't work as it stunts growth and raises unemployment. Its generally considered effective before a bubble when businesses are expanding. Unfortunately the UK is way past that stage and as government debt is creeping over 90% we will soon approach a soverign debt crisis. This might be manageable, but we are due a large external shock when and if hard brexit happens. Historical precedent only gives two options here.. massive stimulus and devaluation... or default.
                      Forgive me I'm confused, You don't want more debt and yet your politics are socialist, which is the bag of worms that got us into our present mess..I need help here ! ..Help Help!!

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                      • What on earth makes you think I'm a socialist?

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                        • I think Mark explains Austerity quite well, better than you and me....

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                          • Originally posted by zara View Post
                            What on earth makes you think I'm a socialist?
                            From a Texan point of view you're near enough a Communist

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                            • Not owning a gun makes you a communist from a Texan point of view

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                              • The difficulty is that while the EU negotiators are answerable to national governments and to a much lesser extent to domestic business lobbies, the UK negotiators have to sell the deal to the British public,. The British public have already shown that they're not interested in the opinion of British manufacturers, banks, insurers, academics, trade-unions, scientific resarchers treasury officials or government ministers, and would rather draw wisdom from navel gazing about the 2nd world war.

                                The reaction when the British public understands that it has actually committed the nation to fifteen years of relative impoverishment will not be to accept the blame for their mistake. They will seek a scapegoat - and our politicians probably already know that. Scary stuff, for them.

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