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    Trumps commitment to NATO to be tested with Montenegro

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/wo...ntry-lfgx7c8nd

    Russia issued a warning to the White House yesterday as expectations grew that President Trump supports the prospect of the tiny Balkan state of Montenegro joining Nato.
    Michael Flynn, the US national security adviser, was said to be in favour of allowing Montenegro, once part of Yugoslavia, to join the western military alliance.
    Asked about Mr Flynn’s position, a Kremlin spokesman said: “The Russian attitude to the further eastward enlargement of Nato is well known: this attitude is negative.”
    Montenegro was invited to join the alliance in 2015 and its membership is due to be ratified by Nato member states this spring. All but five of the 28 have given their assent. The Montenegro parliament must also ratify the move and polling suggests the electorate is divided.

    Mr Trump would like to improve relations with Moscow but he has warned that there was no guarantee that he and President Putin would build a friendly relationship.
    On Nato, Mr Trump has given mixed signals. He has told Theresa May that he stands behind the alliance while complaining that members were skimping on defence budgets and warning that Nato risked becoming “obsolete”.

    Two thirds of the US Senate must agree for Montenegro to join the Nato treaty. However, Mr Trump effectively has the power to veto it.
    Montenegro’s main opposition party is pushing for a referendum on Nato membership, with the support of Russia.

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    If you cannot now guess Trumps decision you have not been paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapper View Post
    If you cannot now guess Trumps decision you have not been paying attention.
    Sorry.. whats it going to be then?
    All Ive read is mixed signals about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zara View Post
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/wo...ntry-lfgx7c8nd

    Russia issued a warning to the White House yesterday as expectations grew that President Trump supports the prospect of the tiny Balkan state of Montenegro joining Nato.
    Michael Flynn, the US national security adviser, was said to be in favour of allowing Montenegro, once part of Yugoslavia, to join the western military alliance.
    Asked about Mr Flynn’s position, a Kremlin spokesman said: “The Russian attitude to the further eastward enlargement of Nato is well known: this attitude is negative.”
    Montenegro was invited to join the alliance in 2015 and its membership is due to be ratified by Nato member states this spring. All but five of the 28 have given their assent. The Montenegro parliament must also ratify the move and polling suggests the electorate is divided.

    Mr Trump would like to improve relations with Moscow but he has warned that there was no guarantee that he and President Putin would build a friendly relationship.
    On Nato, Mr Trump has given mixed signals. He has told Theresa May that he stands behind the alliance while complaining that members were skimping on defence budgets and warning that Nato risked becoming “obsolete”.

    Two thirds of the US Senate must agree for Montenegro to join the Nato treaty. However, Mr Trump effectively has the power to veto it.
    Montenegro’s main opposition party is pushing for a referendum on Nato membership, with the support of Russia.
    The Donald does what The Donald wants because The Donald means business, further, The Donald don't muck about so crawl under yer bed and hide, young millennial, and wait for the sky to fall.

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    Inciteful. Thanks.

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    Montenegro is in the Balkans. ..I fail totally to see what concern it is of Russia. It's never been under Russian sphere of influence either...as Yugoslavia under Tito was never a friend.....

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    Doubt (hope!) Putin has any designs on it, think he just seeks to limit or roll back NATO expansion anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zara View Post
    Doubt (hope!) Putin has any designs on it, think he just seeks to limit or roll back NATO expansion anywhere.

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    Finland? eh?

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    It was called the 'Grand Dutchy of Finland'. It was an autonomous part of the Russian empire in the 19'th century

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    Montenegro is in the Balkans. ..I fail totally to see what concern it is of Russia. It's never been under Russian sphere of influence either...as Yugoslavia under Tito was never a friend.....
    You might want to reread history books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zara View Post
    It was called the 'Grand Dutchy of Finland'. It was an autonomous part of the Russian empire in the 19'th century
    Not in 1992. 80ish years before that the Fins kicked Russian asses out. Then, repeated it some 20 years later. Ever since, it's all nice and quiet on the surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Not in 1992. 80ish years before that the Fins kicked Russian asses out. Then, repeated it some 20 years later. Ever since, it's all nice and quiet on the surface.
    I know! The map shows it was in 1914 (the colours are very similiar)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    You might want to reread history books.
    Three years, during which the Soviets set up spy rings and agitated against Tito - followed by 40 years firmly in the imperialist zone of influence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    You might want to reread history books.
    Which ones written by who?..... History as you must know is subjective and greatly differs depending whose telling it..... I mean if you know where I can get a good copy of the Soviet history world view say 1970 circa I'm all ears. I'm also British and consequently like a good laugh!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Not in 1992. 80ish years before that the Fins kicked Russian asses out. Then, repeated it some 20 years later. Ever since, it's all nice and quiet on the surface.
    A large part of Karelia was still taken by Stalin...So Finland lost territory overall. If they have any sense they will remain Neutral. Coz its worked thus far!!

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