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    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post
    I think one would find if they look back far enough they would see Trump going negative on the press first. That would be typical Trump MO. He will try to set the tone and he will try to intimidate. He did it with the Hispanic judge handling a law suit. He is doing it with Mueller right now. In another day and another time he would send Luca Brasi out to have a talk with you. So the fact that the press went negative on him is to be completely expected. Fight fire with fire.
    Ah, the "he started it" defense. So the press is basically acting like a slighted child lashing out because "waaaah, he started it!"? Ok. Fight fire with fire... how mature. Can't imagine why you guys keep losing elections.

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    [QUOTE=DOR;1026752]

    This week at least, he seems to want to slash social benefits from the poor so as to be able to hand sacks of cash to the rich /QUOTE]

    Lets assume that the health care bill does pass. In what possible way does taking less of someones money in taxes equal handing them sacks of cash? That money already belongs to them. It merely reduces the transfer of wealth from producers to takers. The poor don't pay for Mediciad, its a giant give away for them from the rich and it does diddly squat if you look at health outcomes.

    Typical liberal, equating not taking what does not belong to you with giving them something. it was theirs already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin View Post
    So the press is basically acting like a slighted child lashing out because "waaaah, he started it!"?
    Who started questioning Mueller's fitness for the job of special counsel? Trump has done nothing but slag off everyone, from allies to the IC - except strangely the Muscovite kleptocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin View Post
    Ah, the "he started it" defense. So the press is basically acting like a slighted child lashing out because "waaaah, he started it!"? Ok. Fight fire with fire... how mature. Can't imagine why you guys keep losing elections.
    I know you are not informed. I know you are naive and probably a bit too young. So I suggest you go back over the last 42-43 years to look at how Trump has used the press. I know a tall order for you but the track record is there. There has always been an adversarial relationship between Trump and the press. They are friends and then they are enemies. They are good guys (they praise me) and then they are bad (they said bad things). It is all a game for him since he firmly believes in Barnum's idea of no such thing as bad publicity and is one of the few who can get it to work. Now two get to play the game, on the big field, and he wants a free pass. Well Nero is not going to get a free pass and doesn't deserve one to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOR View Post

    This week at least, he seems to want to slash social benefits from the poor so as to be able to hand sacks of cash to the rich /QUOTE]

    Lets assume that the health care bill does pass. In what possible way does taking less of someones money in taxes equal handing them sacks of cash? That money already belongs to them. It merely reduces the transfer of wealth from producers to takers. The poor don't pay for Mediciad, its a giant give away for them from the rich and it does diddly squat if you look at health outcomes.

    Typical liberal, equating not taking what does not belong to you with giving them something. it was theirs already.
    I see you are into death panels. Now what I have I've seen on a weekly basis and what have you not seen on a weekly basis concerning health care, life and death?

    I bet your answer to that 75 year old clouded flat affect Alzheimer patient in a wheelchair, with type II diabetes, is to go out and get a job to pay for their Medicaid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post

    I see you are into death panels. Now what I have I've seen on a weekly basis and what have you not seen on a weekly basis concerning health care, life and death?

    I bet your answer to that 75 year old clouded flat affect Alzheimer patient in a wheelchair, with type II diabetes, is to go out and get a job to pay for their Medicaid?
    That 75yo and every permanently disabled person in the US of any age except the indigent child is also on Medicare. Medicaid paying for low term care is simply an accounting assignment at the CMS to make administration at the state level easier. The money is actually coming from medicare. More importantly, why do you libs always act like its the most vulnerable who will be affected. Medicaid added millions of able bodies adults, they will be cut, not kids and seniors. Ya'll did the same thing when budgets go tight during the great recession, "oh no why do you want to fire teachers and cops?" Seriously, there are more bean counters and make workers yet ya'll automatically go to the emotional response. same thing during the government shutdown, put fences around the free and open parks to create pain where none existed. Dishonest BS and why ya'll keep losing. Jr and Granny are gonna do just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post

    That 75yo and every permanently disabled person in the US of any age except the indigent child is also on Medicare. Medicaid paying for low term care is simply an accounting assignment at the CMS to make administration at the state level easier. The money is actually coming from medicare (Snicker). More importantly, why do you libs always act like its the most vulnerable who will be affected. Medicaid added millions of able bodies adults, they will be cut, not kids and seniors. Ya'll did the same thing when budgets go tight during the great recession, "oh no why do you want to fire teachers and cops?" Seriously, there are more bean counters and make workers yet ya'll automatically go to the emotional response. same thing during the government shutdown, put fences around the free and open parks to create pain where none existed. Dishonest BS and why ya'll keep losing. Jr and Granny are gonna do just fine.
    Libs? I am a health care professional whose duty is to take care of those who need what I can provide which is neither liberal nor conservative. You can't provide it nor are you even close to what goes on. You are utterly clueless about a field you are not involved in and consequently have zero idea of... just about all. Yet go ahead as I always get a laugh out of those who think they know my area of expertise better than me after 37 years. So I won't bother with anymore on health care as the experts here have it covered so well.

    Medicaid added millions of able bodies adults
    Find them. Evaluate them just to be sure of what you talk about although you are unqualified. Find out what states they live in and whether there are any jobs to be found. As to where to start I'd suggest West Virginia followed by Kentucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post

    Libs? I am a health care professional whose duty is to take care of those who need what I can provide which is neither liberal nor conservative. You can't provide it nor are you even close to what goes on. You are utterly clueless about a field you are not involved in and consequently have zero idea of... just about all. Yet go ahead as I always get a laugh out of those who think they know my area of expertise better than me after 37 years. So I won't bother with anymore on health care as the experts here have it covered so well.
    Doesn't change the fact that jr and Grandma are gonna do just fine.

    Find them. Evaluate them just to be sure of what you talk about although you are unqualified. Find out what states they live in and whether there are any jobs to be found. As to where to start I'd suggest West Virginia followed by Kentucky.
    I started life in Washington, am now in Arkansas. Is there some particular reason they can't move to where jobs and opportunity are? Why do I have to feed, clothe, house and care for them to spare them having to make the same choices I and tens of millions of Americans make.

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