Attack in Berlin X-Mas Market

[JAD_333]

News about attack Versus mentioned.

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id5561

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gest-mall.html

[tankie]

Breaking news

The Berlin terrorist suspect has been shot dead in Milan. BBC News.


Don't suppose "Mutti" Merkel has much to say about open borders today. Berlin suspect shot in Milan, yes, Milan Italy!

[Versus]

I wouldn't count on that, second wave is being prepared.

[Versus]

What is interesting in terms of progress, how they escalate the violence. From mass rapes to mass murders. Unfortunately this escalation will not be seen as a one event that has progression yet as two separate events that bare no correlation with one another. This is the great tragedy of rationalization of these matters, trying to rationally define something that is irrational.

[Doktor]

What is interesting in terms of progress, how they escalate the violence. From mass rapes to mass murders. Unfortunately this escalation will not be seen as a one event that has progression yet as two separate events that bare no correlation with one another. This is the great tragedy of rationalization of these matters, trying to rationally define something that is irrational.

Sure, like when you "forget" your id under the seat and end dead in a city 1000 km away

[Versus]

Sure, like when you "forget" your id under the seat and end dead in a city 1000 km away

So you think that is it false flag op?

[Doktor]

So you think that is it false flag op?

I am not a CT type. You mentioned (ir)rational and first thing that popped up my mind was how rational this is.

[Pedicabby]

Breaking news

The Berlin terrorist suspect has been shot dead in Milan. BBC News.


Don't suppose "Mutti" Merkel has much to say about open borders today. Berlin suspect shot in Milan, yes, Milan Italy!

Well at least he was shot!

[Doktor]

Well at least he was shot!

Not in Germany

[Versus]

I am not a CT type. You mentioned (ir)rational and first thing that popped up my mind was how rational this is.

Well you have to look at it from a Jihady mindset perspective. If you die in a car accident than you don't get to be shehid and thus there is no booty for you once get to heaven. So you have to be known. Second as you are known, your death in a act of terror spreads fear after you are dead and enforces feedback loop. On one side the native population of kufars is afraid of Muslims and Islam and Muslims get ego boost which makes them even more determined to establish the rule of Allah. So your enemy is weaken and your side is stronger. So leaving ID is rational act if you want to accomplish all these things. Here are our old friends from KLA, they are learning fast, from NATO to ISIS...damn they always knew the winner in advance. But somehow I always loved the voice of Arif Vladi, but I guess times are changing, Afir is not modern enough for the new kids...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blckErmJRoM

[drhuy]

A video of Amri pledging allegiance to Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been published by the extremist group’s Amaq news agency. In it Amri calls for Isis supporters to take revenge against “crusaders” bombing Muslims.

shocking!

[drhuy]

Merkel ordered a security review, including an analysis of what went wrong

"YOU, my fuhrer, is what went wrong." if only some german officials still had some dignity to tell her so.

[kato]

Not in Germany

Would have been shot here too in the same situation. Might have survived that for questioning here though.

Only interesting part about Milan is that he took the long way there - going via France, they found a train ticket from Chambery to Turin in his backpack (notably specifically that - the TGV from Chambery to Turin continues to Milan). Probably knew he would have gotten checked at the German-Austrian border if he took a more direct route.

Merkel's calling for consequences, mostly in the sense of more quickly deporting people with rejected asylum requests. Sorry, Yugoslavs and Albanians, that one will hit you.
As a note in that regard: Deportations are a state responsibility, and hence not up to Merkel to decide. There'll also be a couple states who'll give her the middle finger over this.

Amri was imprisoned during summer in order to deport him, but Tunisia refused to acknowledge him as one of their citizens. After a couple months they released him again with a 3-month permit since they couldn't keep him in prison until whenever time Tunisia got their shit together. Which they did btw, at German insistence. The replacement passport necessary to deport him arrived two days after the Berlin attack. Given events we'll probably now force Tunisia and a couple other countries to accept deportations without ID papers - we previously did such a treaty with Romania in the 90s. Merkel is already "in talks" with the Tunisian government to that effect.

[drhuy]

Would have been shot here too in the same situation. Might have survived that for questioning here though.

Only interesting part about Milan is that he took the long way there - going via France, they found a train ticket from Chambery to Turin in his backpack (notably specifically that - the TGV from Chambery to Turin continues to Milan). Probably knew he would have gotten checked at the German-Austrian border if he took a more direct route.

Merkel's calling for consequences, mostly in the sense of more quickly deporting people with rejected asylum requests. Sorry, Yugoslavs and Albanians, that one will hit you.
As a note in that regard: Deportations are a state responsibility, and hence not up to Merkel to decide. There'll also be a couple states who'll give her the middle finger over this.

Amri was imprisoned during summer in order to deport him, but Tunisia refused to acknowledge him as one of their citizens. After a couple months they released him again with a 3-month permit since they couldn't keep him in prison until whenever time Tunisia got their shit together. Which they did btw, at German insistence. The replacement passport necessary to deport him arrived two days after the Berlin attack. Given events we'll probably now force Tunisia and a couple other countries to accept deportations without ID papers - we previously did such a treaty with Romania in the 90s. Merkel is already "in talks" with the Tunisian government to that effect.

oh i dont know, just a thought, isnt it far more simple if they had been barred from entering country in the first place?

[Doktor]

Why Sorry Yugos and Albanians
? I am all for returning anyone who is illegally (over)staying. Good luck returning the to Yugoslavia tho