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Originally posted by Toby View PostCough Cough“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by TopHatter View PostThe UK F-35's and carriers are years from operational deploymentLast edited by Toby; 19 Dec 16,, 22:55.
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Originally posted by Toby View PostThe point is, training has begun. So that when the ship is ready so will the pilots that will land on them. I can wait, I'm British..we're good at that. Hell we waited 3 years in 2 world wars..I'm sure we can manage this!“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by TopHatter View PostNo argument here, it'll be a splendid day when fixed-wing naval aviation returns to the Royal Navy.
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Originally posted by snapper View PostThe whole QE process was a mess from the start. There were originally intended to be 3 new Carriers (one for the French to replace the CdeG) and all were supposed to have catobar. The French had different design requirements, some of just plain silly such Officers Quarters (apparently French Officers do not enjoy the same privileges as RN Officers) but mostly the French wanted nuclear power (which of course they would produce units for). This would have extended the timeline too long for the RN which wanted a workable replacement for the Invincible Class sooner rather than later.
~ BAE Official on the EuroFighter“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by Toby View PostAs for your question about unassisted amphibious assaults, very rarely has this ever happened. Gallipoli was a joint amphibious assault, as was Salerno or Anzio or D day etc but the predominant ships were British. I would have to say the Falklands at San Carlos bay. The most recent amphibious assault carried out by British or Her Majesties ships was the assault at Al Faw in Iraq with American forces.
Maybe you'd like to tell me which ships were involved?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Al_Faw_(2003)
Order of Battle
Coalition forces
3 Commando Brigade, Royal Marines
40 Commando, Royal Marines
42 Commando, Royal Marines
29th Commando Regiment Royal Artillery
59 Independent Commando Squadron Royal Engineers
131 Independent Commando Squadron Royal Engineers
15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, United States Marine Corps
SEAL Teams 3, 8 and 10, US Navy Special Forces
JW GROM, Polish Army commando unit
Fleet support
HMS Ark Royal (helicopter transport)
HMS Ocean (amphibious assault ship)
HMS Richmond (naval gunfire support)
HMS Marlborough (naval gunfire support)
HMS Chatham (naval gunfire support)
HMS Ledbury (Mine hunter)
RFA Sir Galahad (transport)
USS Valley Forge (command and control)
USS Rushmore (transport)
ORP Kontradmirał Xawery Czernicki (logistic support)
HMAS Anzac (naval gunfire support)
Aviation support
USS Constellation
F-14 Tomcat (combat air patrol)
F/A-18 Hornet fighter-bombers
MH-53 Pave Low (sniper overwatch for land assault units)
HH-60H Seahawk (sniper overwatch for Oil platform 'GOPLAT' assault units)
A-10 Thunderbolt II (close air support)
AC-130U Spectre gunship
AH-1 Cobra attack helicopters
To this I will add the Ch-53 and Ch-46s from the MEU. They conducted the first 2 lifts of RMs in the assault. And the MEU artillery battery that fired in support.
I high-lite this only because most non USMC personnel don't realize that a MEU is a combined arms unit.
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Originally posted by Gun Grape View PostThe easy (and lazy) way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Al_Faw_(2003)
Order of Battle
Coalition forces
3 Commando Brigade, Royal Marines
40 Commando, Royal Marines
42 Commando, Royal Marines
29th Commando Regiment Royal Artillery
59 Independent Commando Squadron Royal Engineers
131 Independent Commando Squadron Royal Engineers
15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, United States Marine Corps
SEAL Teams 3, 8 and 10, US Navy Special Forces
JW GROM, Polish Army commando unit
Fleet support
HMS Ark Royal (helicopter transport)
HMS Ocean (amphibious assault ship)
HMS Richmond (naval gunfire support)
HMS Marlborough (naval gunfire support)
HMS Chatham (naval gunfire support)
HMS Ledbury (Mine hunter)
RFA Sir Galahad (transport)
USS Valley Forge (command and control)
USS Rushmore (transport)
ORP Kontradmirał Xawery Czernicki (logistic support)
HMAS Anzac (naval gunfire support)
Aviation support
USS Constellation
F-14 Tomcat (combat air patrol)
F/A-18 Hornet fighter-bombers
MH-53 Pave Low (sniper overwatch for land assault units)
HH-60H Seahawk (sniper overwatch for Oil platform 'GOPLAT' assault units)
A-10 Thunderbolt II (close air support)
AC-130U Spectre gunship
AH-1 Cobra attack helicopters
To this I will add the Ch-53 and Ch-46s from the MEU. They conducted the first 2 lifts of RMs in the assault. And the MEU artillery battery that fired in support.
I high-lite this only because most non USMC personnel don't realize that a MEU is a combined arms unit.
No mention of 43 commando (fleet protection)
SBS units working along side Navy Seals
539 Assault squadron Royal Marines
and HMAS Kanimbla
I'm sure there are other units too
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Originally posted by Toby View PostWiki is good but not thorough
No mention of 43 commando (fleet protection)
SBS units working along side Navy Seals
539 Assault squadron Royal Marines
and HMAS Kanimbla
I'm sure there are other units too
The units you listed took down the goplats
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