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    Someone is missing his sarcasmometer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Someone is missing his sarcasmometer.
    yup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Someone is missing his sarcasmometer.
    Ever since Trump starting running the left and it's media seem to have been struck with some kind of condition that causes hyper-literalness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monash View Post
    No I was considering only sites specifically set up to distribute fake news.

    For a start 'fake' news would have to be the default setting for the sites concerned not just a random or occasional occurrence i.e. a small percentage of total content not the entirety. Any manufacturer can produce a 'dud' product as part of a normal production run and there was indeed a run of made up 'news' articles a few years back in the US that got a couple of well respected (until then) US journalists into serious trouble so retractions in those instances are a starting point.

    In any event the fault has to lie with supposedly factual articles - not opinion pieces. So I could publish a story saying 'Obama is an idiot and traitor' and get away with it but not one saying that he was in Chicago on the December 7th this year addressing a secret conference of Islamic terrorists and has planted an neuc in the white house in order to take out Trump. Fact based versus opinion based.

    Some thought would have to go into writing up the legislation to cover freedom of speech issues but it might be doable. In any case I was just trying to work through a potential remedy for the most egregious cases.

    There is freedom of speech, but no freedom to produce unsafe products. Nice try, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOR View Post
    I like good comedy, too, but not when it is reposted as if it were somehow factual.
    Apparently you're reading the wrong set of tweets...try this one: https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/sta...08162503491586
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAD_333 View Post
    Apparently you're reading the wrong set of tweets...try this one: https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/sta...08162503491586
    The Nigerian prince one was spot on, TBH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAD_333 View Post
    There is freedom of speech, but no freedom to produce unsafe products. Nice try, though.
    Question is will anything be done about it in terms of possible civil/criminal remedies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAD_333 View Post
    Apparently you're reading the wrong set of tweets...try this one: https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/sta...08162503491586
    Yup, though my link does provide a lovely sequence for context, something Dor unfortunately didn't get past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parihaka View Post
    Yup, though my link does provide a lovely sequence for context, something Dor unfortunately didn't get past.
    Step 1. Identify fake news.
    Step 2. Move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monash View Post
    Question is will anything be done about it in terms of possible civil/criminal remedies?

    Aside from libel laws, there's not much we can do without sacrificing freedom of the press. It's up to each of us to find out whether a story is true or false (fake or real), assuming we care to know the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOR View Post
    Step 1. Identify fake news.
    It's known as satire
    Quote Originally Posted by DOR View Post
    Step 2. Move on.
    Be my guest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAD_333 View Post
    Aside from libel laws, there's not much we can do without sacrificing freedom of the press. It's up to each of us to find out whether a story is true or false (fake or real), assuming we care to know the truth.
    Exactly

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    What's a fake news?

    Is it a fake news quoting Trump saying he won the popular vote?

    Is it a fake news quoting the administration saying Russians did it?

    Is it a fake news saying there are WMD without any suspicions?

    Is it fake news saying that Serbians are guilty for everything bad that happened during the dissolution of Yugoslavia?

    The best cure for fake news is to cross-check the "facts" and to ignore those sites who in your view spread disinformation. After a while they will eventually run out of resources. Except for The Guardian/Soros-alike outlets who have their own foundations that keep them running.
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    How can this be defined , in one breath its normal behaviour then the fkin appeasers on another situation are blaming nazis ( german citizens )for wanting their country back

    Breitbart

    1,000-Man Mob Attack Police, Set Germany’s Oldest Church Alight on New Year’s Eve
    At New Year’s Eve celebrations in Dortmund a mob of more than 1,000 men chanted ‘Allahu Akhbar’, launched fireworks at police, and set fire to a historic church.
    Already by 7 pm a man was hospitalised with first-degree burns to his face and hands after fireworks were hurled at a group of homeless people outside the city’s main train station. More than two dozen people were injured at festivities in Dortmund, some seriously.

    The events of the night were described as “quiet” by police in a statement, and as “normal” by a spokesman for the city government.


    Whats it like on a rowdy night then ,,appologist c##t




    But at 11:30pm police announced they were adding to their already much larger than usual presence in the city centre for New Year, sending in further reinforcements of officers.

    This came after the force reported there being a “large number of young men from North Africa” in town, with federal police officer Volker Stall noting there was an “aggressive mood” towards the public and police.

    At midnight, the situation threatened to escalate. A livewire published by the Ruhr Nachrichten reported that a crowd of “at least 1,000 young men” began throwing fireworks into crowds of visitors, which also included families with children. Asked by officers to stop, the mob turned to pelt fireworks at police instead.

    Despite the prohibition of lighting pyrotechnics near churches, firemen had to intervene after fireworks were launched at St Reinolds, Germany’s oldest church, setting the roof alight.


    Also reported by the Ruhr Nachrichten was that “a group of Syrians sang in celebration of the ceasefire in Syria.” However, a video posted to Twitter by one of the newspaper’s reporters, paired with the caption “Syrians celebrate the truce in their country”, shows a group of men chanting ‘Allahu Akhbar’ around the flag of al-Qaeda and Islamic State collaborators, the ‘Free Syrian Army’.


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    There was uproar in Germany last month when St Reinold’s Church was occupied by identitarians in protest against the Islamisation of Germany. The demonstration was denounced as a “clear provocation by neo-Nazis” by Dortmund pastor Friedrich Stiller.

    Dortmund’s ‘Special Commissioner for Tolerance and Democracy’ demanded more taxpayers’ money be put towards “Comeback”, the city’s ‘neo-Nazi deradicalisation programme’ in the wake of the protest. “The money the city gives, 50,000 euros per year, is no longer enough,” Hartmut Anders-Hoepgen, said


    hahahahahahahahahahahaha FFS


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