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    Quote Originally Posted by troung View Post
    Obama was correct we need some entity to vet the news...
    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/reade...203-story.html
    No, the answer is already available its called social media. let your president setup his channels online with his speeches and he can twit all he wants. That is how my PM has managed to counter liberal bias. Time was one word or sentence in an hour long speech got twsted beyond all recognition. That doesn't happen any more.

    I have a feeling when the two meet they will be exchanging tips including how to deal with the free press in a way that does not cramp their wiggle room.

    An entity to vet the news aka ministry of information aka ministry of propaganda, we've seen how that works in other countries. There is a reason you don't have one ; )

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    Facebook Using Unreliable Liberal Fact-Checker To Fight ‘Fake News’
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    1:49 PM 12/15/2016


    As part of a new initiative cracking down on fake news announced on Thursday, Facebook will be partnering up with third party “fact-check” organizations that will alert users if a story they are about to read or share is “disputed.” One of the organizations Facebook is partnering up with is Snopes, which The Daily Caller has exposed more than once butchering the truth or seemingly outright lying in service of a liberal narrative.
    BARCELONA, SPAIN - FEBRUARY 22: Founder and CEO of Facebook Mark Zuckerberg delivers his keynote conference on the opening day of the World Mobile Congress at the Fira Gran Via Complex. (Photo by David Ramos/Getty Images)

    “We believe in giving people a voice and that we cannot become arbiters of truth ourselves, so we’re approaching this problem carefully. We’ve focused our efforts on the worst of the worst, on the clear hoaxes spread by spammers for their own gain, and on engaging both our community and third party organizations,” Facebook vice president Adam Mosseri said in a press release Thursday.

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    NiemanLab notes that Facebook will be relying on four fact-check organizations: ABC News, FactCheck.org, PolitiFact and Snopes. (RELATED: Fact-Checking Snopes: Website’s Political ‘Fact-Checker’ Is Just A Failed Liberal Blogger)

    In July, TheDC caught Snopes lying about the lack of visible American flags at the first day of the Democratic National Convention, claiming an image from the second day of the convention was actually from the first day, in an attempt to debunk a factual story from TheDC. (RELATED: Snopes Caught Lying About Lack Of American Flags At Democratic Convention)

    Just last week, a Snopes “fact-check” of an investigative piece by The Daily Caller News Foundation was riddled with factual errors and omissions, completely butchering the truth. (RELATED: CAUGHT: Snopes Deliberately Omits Key Details To Protect Kerry’s State Dept)

    Facebook has been under pressure to censor “fake news” — a term which some liberal journalists have applied to their conservative competitors.

    Legitimate conservative news organizations like The Blaze or Independent Journal Review (IJR) have been smeared with the fake news label by liberal journalists. (RELATED: Journalists Struggle To Define ‘Fake News’ Even As They Declare War On It)

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    Speaking of fake news, no less than ten international news sites are reporting Donald Trump is appointing Sylvester Stallone as the new director of the NEA. This war is soooo much fun :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parihaka View Post
    Speaking of fake news, no less than ten international news sites are reporting Donald Trump is appointing Sylvester Stallone as the new director of the NEA. This war is soooo much fun :-)
    You think it's fake? I think he knows how to rub back

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    An opinion from a teen

    As beautiful any attempts to filter "fake news" are and as amusing as some of that news may be, it stands to the people to be able to discern which is which. For any fake news there can be real news and readers and viewers should be able to tell the difference, if not...I pray to god that no one let those people be politicians.
    And there will still be governments blocking and censoring some news, so the issue may really be whether or not the actual news can get out compared to whether or not its fake. And to that, I thank Wikileaks and whistleblowers.

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    Amen. Welcome to the board and would you mind popping over to this thread and introducing yourself please
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    Welcome.

    I hope you stick around because we need a smart young 'un around since Benny can no longer be consider one since his daughter was born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troung View Post
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/15/fa...ght-fake-news/
    Facebook Using Unreliable Liberal Fact-Checker To Fight ‘Fake News’
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    1:49 PM 12/15/2016
    Troung:

    Have you checked the credibility of the Daily Caller article? There is an on-going feud between the Caller and Snopes going back to a number of Caller articles that were shown to contain false or inaccurate information. The Caller ultimately decided to turn the tables on Snopes accusing it of doing the same thing. Snopes responded by pointing out errors in the Caller's claims.
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    Nice one on nuclear war

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/middle...ear/index.html

    (CNN)A fake news story led to threats of nuclear war between Pakistan and Israel on Christmas Eve.
    In an article published by AWDNews on Tuesday December 20, former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon was quoted as threatening to destroy Pakistan if it sent troops into Syria.

    "We will destroy them with a nuclear attack," the article quoted Yaalon as saying. There is no evidence Yaalon ever said those words.

    Pakistan Defense Minister Khawaja Asif responded to the fake news article on his official Twitter as if it were real.

    He warned Israel that it was not the only nuclear power.

    "Israeli (defense minister) threatens nuclear retaliation presuming (Pakistan) role in Syria against Daesh. Israel forgets Pakistan is a Nuclear State too," Asif wrote late on December 23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troung View Post
    we need some entity to vet the news...
    We're gonna get one.

    German 'call for government unit to fight fake news'
    23 December 2016
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38417757

    German officials have proposed creating a special government unit to combat fake news in the run-up to next year's general election, reports say.

    A document quoted by the Spiegel news website calls for an "anti-disinformation centre" in Chancellor Angela Merkel's administration.

    The US government believes that fake news stories sent via Facebook, Google and Twitter helped Donald Trump to win the November presidential election.

    It accuses Russia of election meddling.

    A special EU team, called East StratCom, documents what it calls Russian "disinformation". It issues a weekly bulletin highlighting the alleged myths and distortions, as well as a Twitter feed called EU Mythbusters.

    Spotlight on minorities

    "In view of the [2017] parliamentary election, action must be taken very quickly," the document quoted by Spiegel says.

    It calls for an information campaign targeting the Russian- and Turkish-origin minorities in Germany, seen as especially vulnerable to fake news.

    Liberal politicians fear that nationalists - among them the Alternative for Germany (AfD) - and pro-Kremlin activists are getting recruits easily on social media.

    "Acceptance of a post-fact age would be tantamount to a political surrender," the document warns.

    Germany's bitter experiences under the Nazis and communists, however, make any moves towards censorship highly controversial.

    Russian influence

    Earlier this month German officials warned that Russian hackers could undermine the German election through cyber attacks.

    Chancellor Merkel is one of the EU's strongest voices in favour of maintaining sanctions on Russia. EU-US sanctions were imposed after Russia annexed Ukraine's Crimea region in 2014.

    The Obama administration says the Kremlin was behind the hacking of US Democratic Party computers during the election campaign.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin dismissed that accusation on Friday. He suggested that the Democrats were bad losers, who should examine themselves to learn why so many voters opted for the Republicans.
    Also, in the ongoing war on Facebook:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7484166.html
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    Germany may fine Facebook up to 500,000 Euros for every fake news article it publishes

    Government should take 'tougher stance' against social platforms, says politician

    Facebook could face fines of up to 500,000 euros (£420,000) for each fake news story it fails to take down from its site, under new rules suggested by the chairman of Germany’s Social Democrat Party.

    The German government will take a “tougher stance” against Facebook and other platforms ahead of the 2017 parliamentary elections, Thomas Oppermann said, adding that legislators would discuss the fake news problem intensively after the Christmas break.

    Facebook has come under heavy criticism for its role in spreading news articles containing misinformation in the run-up to the US presidential elections.

    “Facebook has not used the opportunity to regulate complaints management itself effectively,” Mr Oppermann told German weekly Der Spiegel, claiming the government had tried and failed to "build bridges" with the company.

    He said he wanted to create a legal obligation for “market-dominating” platforms such as Facebook to set up a legal protection centre in the country that would deal with fake news and hate speech year-round.

    “If Facebook does not immediately delete the affected report within 24 hours, Facebook will have to pay up to 500,000 euros,” he claimed, adding those who had been badly affected by a false story should be compensated.

    But he stressed the complaints staff would not serve as “opinion police” or form a so-called “truth commission”.

    While Facebook has said it was unwilling to filter out fake stories through adjusting its algorithm or by employing editors, it has appointed third-party fact checkers including Snopes, The Washington Post and PoltiFact to help deal with the problem. It has also made it easier for users to report stories they think are untrue.

    Stories found to be fake by fact checkers will be flagged as “disputed” and will lead to a pop-up warning about accuracy before they can be shared. Disputed stories “may also appear lower in News Feed,” Facebook said.

    But critics argue that labelling a fake story, and changing it's position is not enough.

    “There has been only talk for too long. Now we in the coalition will take action at the beginning of next year,” Volker Kauder, a senior member of Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats (CDU), said in a statement on Friday.

    "We plan to impose high penalties that would affect companies like Facebook if they do not meet their responsibilities," Mr Kauder said.

    Chancellor Merkel has previously spoken against the polarising power of so-called “filter bubbles” created by search engines and social media sites

    Ahead of the US election result she warned that the sites' algorithms have led to a “distortion of our perception”.

    Facebook’s insistence that it’s not a news company came as it was revealed that the 20 most-read fake news stories outperformed the 20 most-popular news stories from legitimate news sites.

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    Ministry of truth. Oh, God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post
    I miss Walter...sigh
    Walter was a POS with an anti Military slant during the late 1960's. He was just pretty talented in covering his motives. Good riddance as far as I'm concerned. I will say the same thing when his less masterful protege Dan Rather kicks the bucket!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Ministry of truth. Oh, God.
    Ignorance is Strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    Ignorance is Strength.

    Hows it going there superman ?

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    so are those leftist government sending people to communist countries to learn how to censor and control information yet?

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