All this is one or another form of Luciferiansim, the worshiping of the right and the freedom of that right.
We (in the Balkans and especially in Serbia) are faced with the possibility of Erdogan sending 3 million military aged men, that all belong to the "culture" that enslaved us for 500 years and with whom we have very well recollections what it can do. To make matters worse, it doesn't hide its goals which were the same as they were 500 years ago.
As much as I would like to go into the depths of intellectual and philosophical debates I can't because I see this as a more "practical" issue that requires different type of science and thinking. More along lines of applied physics, mathematics and chemistry.
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First you started the 'intellectual and philosophical debate' by wrongly mentioning logical positivism as an intellectual underpinning to Fascism and Communism - which are both 'Western' theories. To a wolf no intellectualism matters; it is driven by hunger and does not mind what flag or ideology it marches under; Tukhachevsky who's 'Red' Muscovite troops moved to restore Muscovite control over Ukraine, Belarus and Poland in 1919-20 was the Lieutenant in the Tsarist Imperial Guard during WW1. Ideologies for a wolf are another excuse and another face.
Logical positivism, which you mentioned as being the intellectual basis for these extremist ideologies was a philosophical theory of meaning; nothing more. It's roots lay more in the British empiricist tradition of Locke and Hume that also gave birth to US Declaration of Independence not Bolshevism or Nazism which derive more fully from Hegelian theory. You were just wrong.
Nor am I saying that either Hitler or Stalin ever read Hegel's Theory of the State; almost certainly neither did and the truth is more likely neither cared; to would be autocrats laws, principles, theories do not matter; if you find a rule, theory or precedent useful for a specific situation great. If not never mind and proceed as you wish anyway. It is the difference between the civilised respect of the rule of law as a basis for freedom and a form of hero worship for some 'Great Leader' where no matter what laws may in theory be written down any law is subject to the whim of the ruling clique surrounding the Great Leader.
that is USUALLY true but the real monsters come from the true believers. it explains why why Hitler died with a ring of enemies closing in and why Stalin died (probably) peacefully in bed.Ideologies for a wolf are another excuse and another face.
There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov
Regarding Stalin he died of a stroke and was found on the floor having released some inner content. According to the reports I have read his aides knocked twice on his door and getting no reply did not dare to enter until a more senior Official arrived with business that needed his attention; it is possible therefore that if his most immediate aides had not been so petrified and entered on the first occasion they may have been able to help him. Karma I suppose.
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I always said it is better for Ukrainian forces to capture rather than kill Muscovites; I never had any desire to kill them anyway as there is a Muscovite branch of my family and one of our cousins living in our home in Ukraine now. The answer is to defeat them and show the captive soldiers to Muscovite people. Let them write letters, send emails or phone home since public display of POWs is arguably illegal. Treat them well etc... We are not 'fascists' or even anti Muscovite by nature, merely by force since they have invaded Ukraine. We wish the same liberties for them that we wish for us; our Government is still corrupt and theirs is worse. We have common cause. We got rid of our wannabe dictator so can you... That of course Putin understood and why he invaded Ukraine; the dreaded 'colour revolution' at home and that is his still key weakness should he be seen to clearly fail.
I am gorging on Erdogan's speeches, the man amazes me with every new one...Gotta get those UCAV's rolling, man is true inspiration.Just kidding, but he does makes me think strange thoughts...Hewhehe.
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