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    This is a fascinating and new POV for me. Do you have any sources to support your narrative? I would like to read up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
    Sir,
    This is a fascinating and new POV for me. Do you have any sources to support your narrative? I would like to read up.
    it's not a new pov, its been buried with all sorts of other narratives, from both sides of the political spectrum from both countries. I would support the british narrative here as they were the ones who made and granted the option. Without their assent it could not have happened.

    The key point is the era, in the 40s not the 80s which made no sense and introducing Rajiv in there like that IE article did sent it for a spin. Very shoddy. how the heck did it even make it to print (!)

    The English had a paranoia about the Russians that went back to the nineteenth century. it still endured into the 40s among some of the British establishment. Had posted an article from the 80s' foreign affairs that went into this in great detail and the argument there was for Americans not to fall into the same trap during the cold war.

    Course after WW2 it continued as expansionist designs were still on the agenda so precautions had to be made. Bases that might prove pivotal in any future conflict had to be sought. A lot of our strategic thinking is quite influenced by the British. Keeping any powers out of the Indian ocean goes to the British, India's remit is the suez to malacca. That was the earlier role we've not asserted ourselves that much after independence, opting to be freeriders because that sort of model was and is still not economically feasible. Could change with time.

    Look to the west, the brits kept Tibet as a buffer from China, we did not have the resources to continue that plan and when the Chinese marched there, there was not much scrambling happoening in India at all, it was a lot of indifference on the contrary. had posted articles from Time magazine, years back that were warning that something was up but were very confused with Nehru's response. What was the foreign policy in those days, whatever Nehru said, pretty much diktat and the ministers scrambled. Oh! that is our policy. Continued with Indira as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestorm View Post
    I believe Col. Delta is talking about Tarek Fatah
    http;//youtu.be/CfNeZOgggO4?t=190

    He is saying that 2 weeks after the berlin wall fell, churchill asked nehru for bases in the north west as a counter to soviets but nehru said "no". Says he is quoting these from the british library.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anil View Post
    He is saying that 2 weeks after the berlin wall fell, churchill asked nehru for bases in the north west as a counter to soviets but nehru said "no". Says he is quoting these from the british library.
    After BERLIN fell [to the WWII Soviets]. Churchill and Nehru were long dead when the Wall came down.
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    the east west germany ref was an error. he is talking about ww2

    his notion is that since nehru refused churchills request for bases in balochto contain an expanding soviet, this culminated the basis for creating pak as a buffer

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    Given the experience with the East India company, there was no way for a leader to agree to foreign bases of any sort.

    Even during the closeness with the Soviets they were never allowed to operate from India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    After BERLIN fell [to the WWII Soviets]. Churchill and Nehru were long dead when the Wall came down.
    Sir, my quote -

    The British knew it as early as by the middle of WWII, that they would have to grant India independence and leave after the war concludes. However, as soon as Berlin fell to the Red Army and the Soviet's started mopping one area after another, the way the mopped-up Manchuria within weeks after the vanquishing of the AXIS powers, the strategic bells at London started ringing Big Time, leading to Churchill putting up demands of British military bases in North Western India post independence to contain and monitor the Red Army.

    The "Berlin wall" was probably a typo by Anil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Given the experience with the East India company, there was no way for a leader to agree to foreign bases of any sort.

    Even during the closeness with the Soviets they were never allowed to operate from India.
    Yes, this seems quite logical considering Nehru's character and the geopolitical scenario of those days. Nehru wanted to purge India of its colonial past. He wanted everything British, or probably Imperial Britain along with all western shadows to be shaded off from India, if possible the Indian Army as well, which he considered to be the most critical British muscle that held British India.

    This probably answers the good Colonel's educated guess wherein he said something like, "British India doesn't seems to be a very fascinating read in India".
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