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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    You shouldn't. Under our last right wing government we ordered air warfare destroyers well above our requirements & Abrams tanks we probably can't deploy beyond our shores without US logistics assistance. Why would we do such a thing? it was made clear at the time that both capabilities were purchased with the intent that they be able to integrate quickly & easily into a US force of some sort. There were other reasons, most of them poor. We do this sort of stupid stuff all the time. SIGH!
    the AWD selection was political - the preferred option didn't get the gong
    nothing wrong with Abrams support that I know of, even some of the shrill chat about not being able to be lifted by the C17's or carted on the phatships has been blown out of proportion.

    we can certainly deploy them when and wherever HQJOC and the Govt want them to go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    They also have a primarily littoral role. They don't need to sally forth deep in the wild blue yonder. They need to be worried about coastal roles as any attack will generally follow the same path the Japanese did in 1941.

    In shallower and or restricted waters, AIP subs are a better fit, they are smaller, stealthier and just as deadly to an attacker
    Late to the party as been away

    not true on RAN subs. Aust also has ownership of 1/9th of the entire oceanic real estate - so we cover a huge territory on patrols let alone where we do ISR visits

    nukes are political dynamite so never had a chance of getting up in the selection process prior to even this selection of primes

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
    I was under the impression current patrols frequently range from NZ up into the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea. That's a lot more water to cover than a boat patrolling the Baltic or Sea of Japan.
    obviously not going to go into detail - but that is a very small subset of where we go - and historically we have gone on the north side of japan and north west of vladivostok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazed View Post

    Does Australia have any operational experience with a Newport News or General Dynamics Electric Boat ship? Got to build a special yard for that. A number of USN SSN have been refueled in their lifetime, including changing the style of core. Just from an operational and safety perspective you would have to a means of dealing with nuclear material.
    Collins has a common combat room for a reason....

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