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    Mystery Gun (StG44 Variant) - Need Help

    Anybody know what this is? It's obviously some form of StG44.


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    It appears to be an StG 45.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_45(M)
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    Yeah, the lower receiver and the stock are the same as an StG. 44, but the upper receiver and the barrel are different; my guess is this was an even cheaper version of the StG. 44 (which was deliberately simple to begin with) intended for mass-production had the war continued beyond 1945.

    More info: Mauser Gerat 06 / Stg.45 assault rifle (Germany)
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    Sow-motion video of a reproduction StG 45(M) being fired:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl2aOhQus0o


    The deadly full auto rubber-band version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDiyzwiPSIw

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    I've always wanted to own an StG. 44, even in 7.62; there is (or used to be) a company in Germany that made firing replicas chambered in the original 7.92mm x 33mm Kurz round, and an American company is supposed to be coming out with a replica that will fire either 5.56mm/.203 (which makes no sense to me), NATO standard 7.62mm x 39mm, or the original 7.92 x 33mm.

    And, of course, a lot of us have heard about that shipping container that showed up in Syria a few years ago that contained 5,000 Stg. 44's; nobody knows if they are replicas (highly doubtful) or, if they're real, where they've been for the last 65+ years.
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    The rumor mill indicates that the StG's that showed up, was from a secret US stash courtesy of CIA/OSS from WW2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfgun View Post
    The rumor mill indicates that the StG's that showed up, was from a secret US stash courtesy of CIA/OSS from WW2.
    I could see that; smuggle them into Eastern Europe, then say they must be leftover from the War. They did the same thing with ex-Nazi E-boats for smuggling agents into Lithuania & Poland.
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    Huge thanks to everybody who responded! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch View Post
    NATO standard 7.62mm x 39mm
    From a historical viewpoint that had me smirking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch View Post
    I've always wanted to own an StG. 44, even in 7.62; there is (or used to be) a company in Germany that made firing replicas chambered in the original 7.92mm x 33mm Kurz round, and an American company is supposed to be coming out with a replica that will fire either 5.56mm/.203 (which makes no sense to me), NATO standard 7.62mm x 39mm, or the original 7.92 x 33mm.

    And, of course, a lot of us have heard about that shipping container that showed up in Syria a few years ago that contained 5,000 Stg. 44's; nobody knows if they are replicas (highly doubtful) or, if they're real, where they've been for the last 65+ years.
    You mean 7.62mm x 39mm Soviet?

    NATO standard was 7.62mm x 51mm, which was a shorter version of .30.06.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    You mean 7.62mm x 39mm Soviet?

    NATO standard was 7.62mm x 51mm, which was a shorter version of .30.06.
    Yeah, yeah, I was on auto-pilot; I got the 7,92 x 33mm Kurz round mixed up with the 7.62 x 51mm NATO round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch View Post
    I've always wanted to own an StG. 44, even in 7.62; there is (or used to be) a company in Germany that made firing replicas chambered in the original 7.92mm x 33mm Kurz round, and an American company is supposed to be coming out with a replica that will fire either 5.56mm/.203 (which makes no sense to me), NATO standard 7.62mm x 39mm, or the original 7.92 x 33mm.

    And, of course, a lot of us have heard about that shipping container that showed up in Syria a few years ago that contained 5,000 Stg. 44's; nobody knows if they are replicas (highly doubtful) or, if they're real, where they've been for the last 65+ years.
    I have an SAR 3 which is an AK74 chambered for 5.56/.223. I chose that because the 5.56/.223 is relatively cheap and very plentiful. Sure the purists can scream, but they are not the ones scavenging the stores for ammo.
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