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  • Indian Left Wing Loonies Hijack Entire University, Media, Govt and Country for 1 Week

    Something very ridiculous(see humour) is happening in india, enough for me to make a thread on it.

    An obscure group of left wing loonies along with sympathetisers of various(semi-dead) separatists movements have(literally) taken over a university in the national capital, New delhi. It had initially started as a pissing match between campus political groups but has since then managed to take the whole nation on a ride with it.

    The left wing group stands out on the campus every morning and raise slogans ranging from seperatist demands for random regions in india to complete "death to india" outbursts. The indian media has caught on to this(high trp moment) and running wild with it for many past days.

    The media coverage(so ridiculous) has ended up angering random folks on the streets. Yesterday, when a left wing leader was brought to a local court premises, several lawyers approached him and beat him up while the police watched from a distance. This has put the police, the lawyer and court into question.

    The media covering this event(which gets weirder every passing day) has been beaten up too who have now began their own parallel protest questioning the freedom of press with the govt of india.

    The event has ended up attracting comments from the indian home minister, the supreme court and has quite simply hijacked the entire govt and the country.

    Things became more bizarre today morning as an online indian hacking group defaced the universitys site.



    Chaotic and extraordinary ludicrous. Fucking unbelievable!!
    Last edited by anil; 16 Feb 16,, 20:22.

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    But, what is the root of this?
    No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

    To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Doktor View Post
      But, what is the root of this?
      That school tends to attract and recruit a lot of students who have nothing to lose (i.e. too poor, or too bohemian) and students who can't lose (i.e. children of high-ranking bureaucrats, military officers, etc, whose parents will always bail them out). So the students and the faculty often live in an environment divorced from Indian realities: it is supposed to be an elite school, but students don't face the cut-throat competition of the IITs or IIMs or AIIMS; the government heavily subsidizes their tuition; their "output" is subjective, and isn't measured with the rigor of the technical and business schools; etc.

      Methinks that the root cause of this situation is that Indian leaders over-prioritized tertiary education in the socialist period (1950-90), to the point that such education has become an entitlement to some people / interest-groups. Even the beneficiaries of that system and left-leaning liberals, like the Noble laureate and economist Amartya Sen, now agree that GoI screwed up big time by not making K-12 education mandatory and investing so much in subsidized tertiary education. The obvious solution would be to financially gut all these institutions, and then re-invest the savings into improving the appalling K-12 education system. But who is going to bell the cat?

      Meanwhile the tragi-comedy goes on...

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      • #4
        (Also) Part of it is lifestyle - the seduction and thrill to rebel against "the power". It should be acknowledged that there are people who prefer(choose) to live this way.

        Although the troubling part is that it has managed to snag the ordinary man and administration with it.

        Originally posted by Cactus View Post
        The obvious solution would be to financially gut all these institutions, and then re-invest the savings into improving the appalling K-12 education system. But who is going to bell the cat?
        That is a long term solution. In the interim, the circus show still continues.

        It feels like how a person in bangalore would feel annoyed and suffocated by most channels running stories of mumbai flood during every monsoon year. Here, TV showroom galleries have switched to showing non-news channels. Meanwhile, non-hindi and non-english lingual outlets are not interested in JNU and running their own programming as locals don't relate to it.
        Last edited by anil; 17 Feb 16,, 09:40.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by anil View Post
          The event has ended up attracting comments from the indian home minister, the supreme court and has quite simply hijacked the entire govt and the country.

          Things became more bizarre today morning as an online indian hacking group defaced the universitys site.



          Chaotic and extraordinary ludicrous. Fucking unbelievable!!
          It means the opposition has found something to get back at the ruling party.

          its just business of politics. The degree of exaggeration of perceived grievances.

          its a free country and if people want to scream about something the media is always ready to stick a mic or camera on them.

          If it was the other way around i would be hearing never ending stories how the country is being robbed by some small select corrupt minority :)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cactus View Post
            That school tends to attract and recruit a lot of students who have nothing to lose (i.e. too poor, or too bohemian) and students who can't lose (i.e. children of high-ranking bureaucrats, military officers, etc, whose parents will always bail them out). So the students and the faculty often live in an environment divorced from Indian realities: it is supposed to be an elite school, but students don't face the cut-throat competition of the IITs or IIMs or AIIMS; the government heavily subsidizes their tuition; their "output" is subjective, and isn't measured with the rigor of the technical and business schools; etc.
            Agree

            Methinks that the root cause of this situation is that Indian leaders over-prioritized tertiary education in the socialist period (1950-90), to the point that such education has become an entitlement to some people / interest-groups.
            This akin to saying India should first feed its teeming masses before thinking of nuclear & space programs. Had they not developed tertiary education they would have a massive brain drain. Much more than it has been.

            Where btw are the teachers to come from to enable basic education in the first place ?

            Even the beneficiaries of that system and left-leaning liberals, like the Noble laureate and economist Amartya Sen, now agree that GoI screwed up big time by not making K-12 education mandatory and investing so much in subsidized tertiary education.
            And how much more would it take to make k-12 mandatory. orders of magnitude. Remember the right to education bill. How to finance it. That's always been the problem. The school drop out rate is 90%.

            The obvious solution would be to financially gut all these institutions, and then re-invest the savings into improving the appalling K-12 education system.
            ah, i think you hit the nub of it right there. This is what the protests are really about. keep those tenures going.

            Any attempt to gut said institutions is and will be painted as 'saffron agenda' or worse. brain washing whatever you can think up so long as there is that all important ominous ring to it at the end.

            Same thing in other sectors whenever the word 'reform' is uttered. The vested interests jump into the fray and fight for dear life.

            But who is going to bell the cat?
            Nobody because it will become increasingly politically expensive.

            Meanwhile the tragi-comedy goes on...
            Could say this about most democratic countries isn't it. Always that two steps forward one step back.
            Last edited by Double Edge; 19 Feb 16,, 13:10.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
              Methinks that the root cause of this situation is that Indian leaders over-prioritized tertiary education in the socialist period (1950-90), to the point that such education has become an entitlement to some people / interest-groups.
              This akin to saying India should first feed its teeming masses before thinking of nuclear & space programs. Had they not developed tertiary education they would have a massive brain drain. Much more than it has been. Where btw are the teachers to come from to enable basic education in the first place?
              Are you saying that India is like North Korea, where the nuclear and space programs mainly serve the interests of a tiny section of its population? If not, then your question is based on a false premise. The criticism is not about the existence of the tertiary education system; it is a criticism of the fact that such education has become an entitlement to some people / interest-groups at public expense.

              Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
              Nobody because it will become increasingly politically expensive.
              Sorry, I don't think it is about political expense -- it is political expediency. If the current government takes a principled stand of fiduciary responsibility to the tax-payers, it will be a political investment (not an expense). Instead it takes an opportunistic stance of "I'm in power, so I'll re-purpose these institutions to suit my political agendas and pay-off my patrons." That is why it is tragi-comic.

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              • #8
                Support #leftwinglivesmatter

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                • #9
                  www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwzlb1DTovc

                  dusmanala zaan re
                  Lets try to know/name our enemies

                  Arre bhale bhale bhulale, bhaltech gaati gaan re
                  Our significant icons(ambedkar et al) are being forgotten,
                  while good for nothings(bal thackeray et al) are being sung and praised

                  dusmaan sarvanash, tari gun gaan re
                  The enemy is of the "all-destroying" kind (hindu god shiva),
                  Yet they sing and praise him

                  As the legacy of ambedkar starts to fade away, the singer tries to express his frustration and anger at their movements(and beliefs) growing dis-popularity. Who would have thought at the success of ambedkars rebellion, that half century later the ideology of the maratha empire and the icons that lead it(savarkar, thackeray etc) would start penetrating the villages and youths which were once part of the dalit movement.
                  This is a poetry/song from a left wing political group for a marathi movie. The lead man once claimed to be inspired by and a product of the works from "anand patawardhan". Songs like these(socialist victims) and the slogan peotry by kanaiya kumar(skilled orator) at JNU have a common theme - frequent references to human suffering and apathy and reaffirming that as a product of the mainstream rule(parliamentary democracy) and nation state(hindu). Here(according to them), the mainstream has taken a predictable path(by electing the modi govt), which is unacceptable to them.

                  Unfortunately, they have found themselves in a difficult situation(a conjoint-ment of people and the govt) - where criticizing one automatically means criticizing the other. Given the predicament(nationalists vs outcasts), they have no other choice but to follow their own predictable(albeit destructive) path and not without a purpose. By rejecting the nation-state and praising terrorists(enemy of the enemy rule), they hope to use emotive impulses to force the ruling govts hand into a violent confrontation. But instead, their antics have managed to infuriate the common man(see whatsapp/facebook circulations and lawyer beatings). Currently, modi has decided to ignore them and persisted with his campaign to woo manufacturers. The case has instead gone to the courts who will take some time out till public fury settles down.
                  Last edited by anil; 21 Feb 16,, 10:45.

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                  • #10
                    The globalized left wing unions of the world speaketh:
                    Via Email !!

                    Here's their statement and the list of signatories:

                    We have learnt of the shameful act of the Indian government which, invoking sedition laws formulated by India’s colonial rulers, ordered the police to enter the Jawaharlal Nehru University campus and unlawfully arrest a student leader, Mr. Kanhaiya Kumar, on charges of inciting violence - without any proof whatever of such wrongdoing on his part.

                    From the reports of a large number of witnesses and the most highly respected journalists in the country, these are the known facts that no impartial observer denies: In a student meeting, acting well within the rights he possesses by the law of the land, Mr. Kumar spoke critically of the BJP government’s policies. On the previous day, at some other event, which he had no part in organising and at which he did not speak, a handful of other students, not even identifiable as students of the university, were shouting slogans about the rights of Kashmiris to independence from Indian military oppression over the last many decades. Mr. Kumar, whose speech (widely available on a video) cannot in any way be connected with the slogans uttered on the previous day, was nonetheless arrested for ‘anti-national’ behaviour and for violating the sedition laws against the incitement to violence. Since there is no evidence to establish these charges, we can only conclude that this arrest is further evidence of the present government’s deeply authoritarian nature, intolerant of any dissent, setting aside India’s longstanding commitment to toleration and plurality of opinion, replicating the dark times of an oppressive colonial period and briefly of the Emergency in the mid-1970s.

                    These actions of the police have brought great dishonour to the government; and the failure of the Vice-Chancellor to speak out against these actions and moreover to allow the suspension of seven other students on charges that have not been established by a fair and transparent inquiry, will bring great dishonour to the most prominent university in the country in the eyes of the academy all over the world.

                    We, the undersigned, take a stand of heartfelt solidarity with the students and faculty of Jawaharlal Nehru University in their efforts to resist these developments on its campus and, in the name of the liberties that India and Indian universities until recently could take for granted, we not only condemn the culture of authoritarian menace that the present government in India has generated, but urge all those genuinely concerned about the future of India and Indian universities to protest in wide mobilisation against it.
                    Signed by:

                    1. Noam Chomsky, Emeritus Professor of Linguistics and Philosophy, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, USA

                    2. Orhan Pamuk, Nobel Laureate, Turkey

                    3. Jonathan Cole, Former Provost of Columbia University, USA

                    4. Judith Butler, Professor of Linguistics, University of California, Berkeley

                    5. Richard N. Zare, Professor of Chemistry, Stanford University, USA

                    6. Robert Wade, Professor of International Development, London School of Economics, UK

                    7. Akeel Bilgrami, Professor of Philosophy, Columbia University, USA

                    8. Dimitri Papadimitriou, Director, Levy Institute, Bard College, USA

                    9. Mriganka Sur, Professor of Neuroscience, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, USA

                    10. Jan Breman, Emeritus Professor of Sociology, Amsterdam University, The Netherlands,

                    11. Sanat Kumar, Professor of Chemical Engineering, Columbia University, USA

                    12. Sheldon Pollock, Professor of Sanskrit, Columbia University, USA

                    13. Barbara Harriss-White, Emerita Professor of Development Studies, Oxford University, UK

                    14. Partha Chatterjee, Professor of Anthropology, Columbia University, USA.

                    15. N. V. Ramana, Professor of Physics, Princeton University, USA

                    16. James Galbraith, Professor of Economics, University of Texas at Austin, USA

                    17. Charles Taylor, Emeritus Professor of Philosophy, McGill University, Canada

                    18. Servaas Storm, Professor of Economics, Delft University of Technology, The Netherlands

                    19. Arjun Appadurai, Professor of Media, Culture and Communication, New York University, USA.

                    20. Alicia Puyana Mutis, Professor of Economics, Flacso, Mexico.

                    21. Robert Pollin, Professor of Economics, University of Amherst at Massachusetts, USA

                    22. Juan Carlos Moreno Brid, Professor of Economics, Universidad National de Mexico, USA

                    23. Gerald Epstein, Professor of Economics, University of Amherst at Massachusetts, USA

                    24. Pasuk Phongpaichit, Emerita Professor, Chulalongkorn University, Bangkok Thailand.

                    25. Kanti Rai, leading leukemia specialist, USA

                    26. Gauri Vishwanathan, Professor of English, Columbia University, USA

                    27. Ha-Joon Chang, University of Cambridge, UK

                    28. Jennie Traschen, Professor of Physics, University of Massachusetts at Amherst, USA

                    29. David Kastor, Associate Head of Department of Physics, University of Massachusetts at Amherst, USA

                    30. Ugo Pagano, Professor of Economics, Università degli Studi di Siena, Italy

                    31. Mira Nair, Film Director

                    32. Ozlem Onaran, Professor of Economics, University of Greenwich, UK

                    33. Engelbert Stockhammer, Professor of Economics, University of Bristol, UK

                    34. Gary Dymski, Professor of Applied Economics, University of Leeds, UK

                    35. Arjun Jayadev, University of Massachusetts, Boston, USA.

                    36. Elissa Braunstein, Colorado State University, USA

                    37. Alicia Giron, Universidad National de Mexico, USA

                    38. Daniele Tori, University of Greenwich, UK

                    39. Pablo Bortz, Universirty of San Martin, Beunos Aires, Argentina

                    40. Daniela Gabor, UWE Bristol, UK

                    41. Annina Kaltenbrunner, University of Leeds, UK

                    42. J.George Waardenburg, Emeritus professor in development economics at Erasmus University Rotterdam, The Netherlands.

                    43. Fernando J. Cardim de Carvalho, Emeritus Professor, Federal University of Rio de Janeiro

                    44. Mario Tonveronachi, Università degli Studi di Siena, Italy

                    45. Jan Kregel, Director of Research, Levy Institute, Bard College, USA

                    46. Thomas Ferguson, University of Massachusetts, Boston, USA

                    47. Malcolm Sawyer, Emeritus Professor of Economics, University of Leeds, UK

                    48. Thea Harvey-Barratt, Levy Institute, Bard College, USA

                    49. Amrita Chhachhi, International Institute of Social Studies, The Hague Netherlands

                    50. Noemi Levy, Universidad National de Mexico, USA

                    51. Ilhan Dogus, University of Hamburg, Germany

                    52. Edward Fullbrook, Executive Director, World Economics Association

                    53. Brendan Burchell, University of Cambridge, UK

                    54. Vamsi Vakulabharanam, Professor of Economics, University of Amherst at Massachusetts, USA

                    55. Sripad Motiram, University of Massachusetts at Bosto, USA

                    56. Stefano Zambelli, Universita di Trento, Italy

                    57. Andrew B. Tylecote, Emeritus Professor, University of Sheffield, UK

                    58. Jing Cai, University of Aberdeen, Scotland

                    59. Julian Wells, Kingston University, UK

                    60. Mehmet Kerem Coban, Lee Kuan Yew Institute of Public Policy, National University of Singapore

                    61. Andres Lazzarini, University of San Martin, Argentina

                    62. Radha Upadhyaya, University of Nairobi, Kenya

                    63. Riccardo Bellofiors, Universita di Bergamo, Italy

                    64. Carolina Alves, University of London

                    65. Pritam Singh, Oxford Brookes University, UK

                    66. Stephanie Seguino, University of Vermont, USA

                    67. Nicolas Pons-Vignon, EHSS, Paris

                    68. Sergio Cesarotto, Universita di Siena, Italy

                    69. Tomas Rotta, University of Greenwich, UK

                    70. Robin Blackburn, Cullman Fellow, New York Public Library

                    71. David Freedberg, Director, Warburg Institute, University of London

                    72. Mario Seccareccia, University of Ottowa, Canada

                    73. Jens Lerche, University of London, UK

                    74. Kevin Gallagher, Boston University, USA

                    75. Maria Cristina Marcuzzo, Università di Roma "La Sapienza", Italy

                    76. Pascal Petit, University of Sorbonne, Paris France

                    77. Deepankar Basu, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, USA.

                    78. María Cecilia Ainciburu, Università degli Studi di Siena, Italy

                    79. Eugenia Correa, Universidad Nacional de Mexico, Mexico City

                    80. Wendy Olsen, Professor of Socio-Economics, University of Manchester, UK

                    81. Radhika Balakrishnan, Rutgers University, USA

                    82. Eduardo Strachman, Sao Paulo State University, Brazil

                    83. Wesley Colin Marshall, Universidad Autónoma Metropolitana, Iztapalapa, Mexico

                    84. Trevor Evans, Berlin School of Economics and Law, Germany

                    85. Geoffrey C. Harcourt, University of New South Wales, Australia

                    86. Terrence McDonough, National University of Ireland, Galway

                    87. Rod O’Donnell, University of Sydney, Australia

                    88. David Bromwich, Professor of English, Yale University, USA

                    89. Alfredo Saad Filho, SOAS, University of London, UK

                    90. Victoria Chick, Professor Emerita, University College London, UK.

                    91. Makoto Itoh, Professor Emeritus, University of Tokyo, Japan

                    92. Nobuharu Yokokawa, Musashi University, Tokyo, Japan

                    93. Giovanni Vaggi, University of Pisa, Italy

                    94. Terence J, Byres, Professor Emeritus, University of London, UK

                    95. C.W.M. Naastepad, Delft University of Technology, The Netherlands

                    96. Matilde Adducci, University of Turin, Italy

                    97. Michael Landesmann, University of Vienna, Austria

                    98. Heinz D. Kurz, University of Graz, Austria.

                    99. Pascal Petit, University of Paris 13, France.

                    100. Alessandro Roncaglia, Universita La Sapienza, Rome Italy

                    101. Daniela Venanzi, Universita Roma 3, Italy

                    102. Rune Skarstein, Norwegian University of Science and Technology, Trondheim, Norway

                    103. Josef Poeschl, Vienna, Austria

                    104. Lionello Punzo, Universita di Siena, Italy

                    105. Issa Shivji, Director, Nyerere Resource Centre, Dar es Salaam, Tanzania

                    106. Terry McKinley, SOAS, University of London, UK

                    107. John S. Saul, Professor Emeritus, York University, Canada

                    108. Mehmet Ugur, University of Greenwich, UK

                    109. Rachel Kurian, Erasmus University, Rotterdam, The Netherlands

                    110. Matias Vernengo, Bucknell University, USA

                    111. Andrea Ginzburg, University of Modena and Reggio Emilia, Italy

                    112. Mahmood Mamdani, University of Dar es Salaam, Tanzania

                    113. Vijay Prashad, Trinity College, USA

                    114. Elmar Altvater, Berlin School of Economics and Law, Germany

                    115. Carlo D'Ippoliti, La Sapienza University of Rome

                    116. Francesca Bettio, Universita degli Studi di Siena, Italy

                    117. Carlo Panico, Universita Federico II, Naples, Italy

                    118. John Bellamy Foster, University of Oregon, USA

                    119. Amitava Krishna Dutt, University of Notre Dame, USA

                    120. Antonio Yúnez-Naude, El Colegio de Mexico, Mexico

                    121. Jonathan W. Moses, Norwegian University of Science and Technology, Trndheim, Norway

                    122. Peter Lawrence, Keele University, UK

                    123. Gilad Isaacs, University of the Witwatersrand, South Africa

                    124. Rebecca Gumbrell-McCormick, Birkbeck College, UK

                    125. Greg Albo, York University, Canada

                    126. Grazia Ietto-Gillies, Emeritus Professor, London South Bank University, UK

                    127. Antonella Palumbo, Roma Tre University, Italy

                    128. Hannes Lacher, York University, Toronto, Canada

                    129. Andrea Salanti, University of Bergamo, Italy

                    130. Antonella Stirati, Università Roma Tre, Rome, Italy

                    131. Deborah Fahy Bryceson, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

                    132. Tore Linné Eriksen, Oslo University College of Applied Sciences, Norway

                    133. Roberto Ciccone, Universita Roma Tre, Italy
                    Last edited by anil; 21 Feb 16,, 14:34.

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                    • #11
                      Welcome to America!
                      "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by anil View Post
                        The globalized left wing unions of the world speaketh:
                        Via Email !!
                        Rightttttt.....

                        The Hindu nationalists entrenched in the USA (including those who have renounced Indian nationality) can quote chapter and verse on Chomsky when he talks about White America's imperialism. The shoe, however, is on the other foot now...
                        "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by antimony View Post
                          Rightttttt.....

                          The Hindu nationalists entrenched in the USA (including those who have renounced Indian nationality) can quote chapter and verse on Chomsky when he talks about White America's imperialism. The shoe, however, is on the other foot now...
                          So long as those nationalists remember India when the BJP is not in power :D

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                            So long as those nationalists remember India when the BJP is not in power :D
                            When BJP is not in power they gather funds for the BJP. BJP is not alone by the way, AAP has a lot of supporters too. I am sure so do other parties
                            "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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