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  • 4 dead in Canadian school shooting

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ca...-idUSKCN0V02KT

    I couldn't fathom this. This is Canada. We don't do this. Apparently we do. Shooting your own brothers? Too engrossed trying to fathom this. My mind was on nothing else.
    Chimo

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    Unbelievable. RIP.

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    • #3
      Nuts is nuts no matter where one might live. This guy killing his brothers is nuts. The only question is what kind of weapons does he have access to and the damage he can do with them.

      My condolences...

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      • #4
        Damned.

        Any possible motives?
        Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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        • #5
          It's only speculation at this point. The kid had a 12 gauge pump and he surrendered without a fight.
          Chimo

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          • #6
            With luck they will find out what set him off and be able to deter future such events.
            Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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            • #7
              The usual jaw-jaw excuses are coming out like flood water. Easy (relatively) access to firearms. Video games. De facto apartheid (this is a Native-Canadian community) with kids having no future to look forward to except welfare (left unsaid is that they get more money off welfare than a 40 hour minimum wage job because of their native status) TV and glorification of violence by American culture.

              All freaking BS. This was a sick kid who lost it. My question is how did he lose it so much that he shot his two brothers? One younger than him.
              Chimo

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              • #8
                It's never the criminal's fault. It's always something else. The liberal leftists will never blame the perpetrator, only objects and circumstances.
                "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gunnut View Post
                  It's never the criminal's fault. It's always something else. The liberal leftists will never blame the perpetrator, only objects and circumstances.
                  Of course (depending on the specific circumstances in each case) it is also the fault of the individual who owned the firearm and who may have failed to secure it/them properly - thereby providing a mentally ill/drug effected/violent individual with access to the weapon/s used in their crime.

                  I would also note that contrary to your statement US jails are full of people who committed violent gun crimes - it turns out your juries are apparently quite comfortable with saying 'It's your fault!'
                  Last edited by Monash; 26 Jan 16,, 00:16.
                  If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                  • #10
                    This is a native community. Hunting is a way of putting food on the table. The kid was 17 years old. It would not be uncommon for a young native to go bag a couple of birds for dinner.

                    And before anyone else says we should get them of living off the land - 1st, it's their way of life and they want to stay that way. 2nd, we give them more than enough moneys to live on. The fact they choose to spend on booze and drugs instead of food, clothing, and shelter are their choice and nothing we can do about it save to take away their treaty and human rights.

                    It is defacto apartheid but one of their own choosing. I know a lot of former rangers who were extremely intelligent and were poised to take good jobs ... until they found out how much they could get from the government doing nothing.

                    But none of this explains the actions of this young man. From all stories, he was behaving normally, exhibited nothing out of the ordinary (at least nothing anyone could have detected) and he didn't go on a mad shooting spree bent on murder/suicide by cop. He didn't even put up a fight when the RCMP demanded his surrender.
                    Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 26 Jan 16,, 01:36.
                    Chimo

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Monash View Post
                      Of course (depending on the specific circumstances in each case) it is also the fault of the individual who owned the firearm and who may have failed to secure it/them properly - thereby providing a mentally ill/drug effected/violent individual with access to the weapon/s used in their crime.

                      I would also note that contrary to your statement US jails are full of people who committed violent gun crimes - it turns out your juries are apparently quite comfortable with saying 'It's your fault!'
                      The juries are, yes.

                      The liberal democrats always blame objects first. They may or may not blame the humans committing the crimes.

                      What do we hear after every single shooting incident (as long as it's not black on black)? Oh he had a bad childhood; easy access to guns; he was abused; he was crazy; easy access to guns; NRA did it; easy access to guns...etc.
                      "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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                      • #12
                        And the excuses keep coming

                        http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...about-his-ears

                        This does not explain the murders of his brothers.
                        Chimo

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                        • #13
                          So. Is the kid talking/cooperating yet?
                          Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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                          • #14
                            No. Not even to his lawyer. Everything we know now is from his friends
                            Chimo

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gunnut View Post
                              It's never the criminal's fault. It's always something else. The liberal leftists will never blame the perpetrator, only objects and circumstances.
                              I'm a centrist and I can see why liberals would want to focus on the circumstances. Everyone is a product of his/her environment. There are personal idiosyncrasies at play, but they're outside of third parties' control. So the only constructive thing to do in this case is to learn what external stimuli cumulatively lead to such a violent behaviour and prevent them from happening to other children.

                              OOE said that this was a sick kid. The question liberals would ask is what made him sick in the first place.

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