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Patton's Third Army in the Pacific instead of Europe
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Originally posted by bonehead View PostMcArthur's first mission was to make Australia and the Philippines safe. After that it was to take the fight to the Japanese mainland. The strategy to get close enough for bombers to hit the mainland and eventual invasion was sound. Adding nuclear weapons was icing on the cake. I wouldn't get to hasty to compare campaigns though. Zhukov was not fighting on islands/jungles and he didn't have the Japanese navy to contend with. To be honest i don't think the American government put much stock in sending forces to China other than a few volunteers, ie flying tigers. The goal of the U.S. was to take the fight directly to the Japanese homeland and that is exactly what happened.
But that is outside the argument of this thread. The argument is what is going to kill Japan quick and hard and that is the lost of Manchuria and Korea and historically that was done via maneuver war - twice - by the Soviets.
So tell me again, how a WWI General, MacArthur, is going do better than a maneuver General, Patton, when MacArthur could not even fathom killing the IJE through taking Manchuria and Korea.
While by the same token, Patton got shouted down from cutting off the Bastonge salient?Chimo
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Originally posted by bonehead View PostThe world came dangerously close to putting that to the test.Chimo
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostBut we're going outside the point of this thread. Patton could kill the IJE fast and hard, faster than what traditionally has been WWII.
That in turn released the full US might towards Europe.
And all because of FDR's decision to go Europe first.Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostThere was no test. Patton was an Army General. Zhukov was a theatre General. The Western equivalent was Eisenhower. Only difference was Zhukov saw more combat than Patton and certainly more than Eisenhower.Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.
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Originally posted by bonehead View PostI have no doubt that Patton could have done so in china. Getting to the Japanese homeland and getting Japan to surrender was not going to be that fast or easy. The wisdom at the time was that Japan was not going to surrender without being invaded and that was going to be a bloodbath for both sides. Nothing short of dropping a couple of atomic bombs changed this.Chimo
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostDoes not change the fact that Patton had no say in which enemy he was going to fight."There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge
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