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    Star Wars Episode VII

    Who's going on opening night?

    I don't have tickets for opening night. I just bought tickets for Saturday night. I'm old. I don't need to stand in line for 7 hours and then fight the zoo for a decent seat to enjoy my movie.
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    I pre-bought my tickets but won't be seeing it until Sunday night. I just don't want to deal with the raucous crowds.

    As far as the movie itself, my expectations are as follows: Just be better than the prequels.

    Which means that an 8 year with an iPhone camera could fulfill that.

    I'm already a tad irritated by the cutesy factor of "BB-8" (a soccer ball? really?) and some of the character names.
    "Kylo Ren" is one of the big bad guys? With that name? Doesn't quite pop like Darth Vader now does it.

    Anyway, George Lucas isn't involved in the slightest, so it ought to be a halfway entertaining movie.
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    “We had been hopelessly labouring to plough waste lands; to make nationality grow in a place full of the certainty of God… Among the tribes our creed could be only like the desert grass – a beautiful swift seeming of spring; which, after a day’s heat, fell dusty.”
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    I'm actually looking forward to this movie.

    Now that Lucas is largely uninvolved, I'm hoping the dialogue is realistic and not akin to 70's porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFever View Post
    I'm actually looking forward to this movie.

    Now that Lucas is largely uninvolved, I'm hoping the dialogue is realistic and not akin to 70's porn.
    Couldn't have said it any better myself!

    Early reviews/reactions are overwhelmingly positive...of course, they were pretty much the same way with The Phantom Menace too.

    Still and all, I'm cautiously optimistic.

    This is after all, a real filmmaker that made this film, in collaboration with an entire team of professionals, not some washed-up hack that surrounds himself with yes-men too scared to contradict him.

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    Tickets bought for Sunday night, Saturday American time. J J Abrahms is the only reason I'm going. After the Star Trek reboot I'm willing to accept he can do anything.
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    I'm not holding my breath. Good action movie, sure, but a good action movie that will be forgettable in 6 months.
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    As big a fan of Star Wars as I am, I'm not going until Monday. I figure I can wait a couple days longer, and have the whole theater to myself instead of going to work that day.

    I figure it will be a good movie. I don't over analyze these things - it is supposed to be fiction and entertainment. I didn't even mind the prequels - really, what was so bad about them? That Yoda seemed like a cartoon instead of a puppet? Jar Jar was a dolt, so what?
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    Take a look at the Plinkett reviews for a full summary of why the prequels sucked.

    Essentially there is no compelling plot and no compelling characters. It's just a bunch of action and forced humor. But the action is over-produced and becomes boring rather quickly.

    Lucas used a poorly written story to tell special effects. You're supposed to use special effects to tell a story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVChamp View Post
    I'm not holding my breath. Good action movie, sure, but a good action movie that will be forgettable in 6 months.
    I'll be happy with an action movie that's forgettable in 6 months quite frankly

    Quote Originally Posted by tuna View Post
    As big a fan of Star Wars as I am, I'm not going until Monday. I figure I can wait a couple days longer, and have the whole theater to myself instead of going to work that day.

    I figure it will be a good movie. I don't over analyze these things - it is supposed to be fiction and entertainment. I didn't even mind the prequels - really, what was so bad about them? That Yoda seemed like a cartoon instead of a puppet? Jar Jar was a dolt, so what?
    I agree to a point, these are after all "just" movies and entertainment. On the other hand, the Star Wars films were such game changers when they came out. They inspired an entire generation to go into things like acting, music, filmmaking etc. I hate to sound pretentious and all, but for me personally, the Star Wars films mean a great deal because I first experienced them as a young child. I gained my love of orchestral music to thanks to John Williams and my fascination with logistics thanks to the numerous "behind-the-scenes" specials that were made.

    Sure you can say a lot about how Lucas & Company borrowed from a variety of sources like Kurosawa, the old Republic serials, World War II imagery and cinema like The Dambusters and Leni Riefenstahl.
    But when you put all those together, you have an incredibly rich and colorful universe. It works on so many levels and is timeless in it's own right.

    Then the prequels came alone. They failed on so many levels as stories and films. They were basically pointless exercises in mass-CGI.

    RedLetterMedia's rather disgusting character "Mr. Plinkett" does in-depth reviews for all three prequels (among other movies) and really enunciates exactly what people find wrong with them. I don't agree with 100% of what he says (and his cutscenes are really stupid) but if you got some time to spare, check them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVChamp View Post
    Take a look at the Plinkett reviews for a full summary of why the prequels sucked.

    Essentially there is no compelling plot and no compelling characters. It's just a bunch of action and forced humor. But the action is over-produced and becomes boring rather quickly.

    Lucas used a poorly written story to tell special effects. You're supposed to use special effects to tell a story.
    lol I was in the middle of typing my response when my dad called and I wound up talking to him so long you beat me to it! :-D
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    Jar Jar Binks is the mastermind behind the Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission and provided L.Ron Hubbard the outline for Dianetics.

    Do not doubt his powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter View Post
    lol I was in the middle of typing my response when my dad called and I wound up talking to him so long you beat me to it! :-D
    Ha, I saw your youtube link higher up and figured I retreaded your thoughts anyways :P

    I actually like Revenge of the Sith, once Griveous is dead and Order 66 rolls out. It's a great mini-movie! The characters have clear objectives they are working towards. There's a lot of tension between characters. The light-saber duels stretch on for far longer than they need to, but are at least cinematically interesting: more Sidious, and oh god Sidious is so awesome.

    I think the original Star Wars are also vastly overrated. Interesting, yeah, but the story and plot are so formulaic, and Return of the Jedi disappoints in a lot of ways (not just the Ewoks).

    Avatar actually outclasses Star Wars in terms of world-building, IMO. Though...again, pretty formulaic...
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    Jar Jar Binks is the mastermind behind the Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission and provided L.Ron Hubbard the outline for Dianetics.

    Do not doubt his powers.
    that theory is indeed out there...:-)

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    Cripes that Jar Jar theory is worse than those nuts that collect guns and awaits the Zombie Apocalypse.

    :Looksatwhocreatedthisthread:

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