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  • Originally posted by Versus View Post
    Why rich Arab countries don't invest in building new factories in Germany but are willing to build zillion mosques?
    You might want to check into those investments. Most major German companies have 5-10% stakes owned by those "rich Arab countries".

    Originally posted by Versus View Post
    Can you imagine an Audi assembly line, and those migrants work on a cars and than in the middle of work they have to pray while the whole assembly line gets messed up.
    You do realize that the assembly lines at German car factories currently work with tens of thousands of muslim workers?

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    • Originally posted by S2 View Post

      I suppose we COULD just acknowledge these things are inevitable from time to time and go about our business sans a few token airstrikes to salve the conscience and slake any thirst for blood.
      looks to be the response. I wonder what Obama has ceded to Putin at their latest talk.
      In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

      Leibniz

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      • Originally posted by kato View Post
        You might want to check into those investments. Most major German companies have 5-10% stakes owned by those "rich Arab countries".


        You do realize that the assembly lines at German car factories currently work with tens of thousands of muslim workers?
        What is their age statistics?

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        • Originally posted by citanon View Post
          MIKEMUN, if you actually look at the large wars of the past, victory is not achieved by cowing the enemy. It is actually achieved by remove the capability to conduct further action.

          In WWII victory was achieved in Europe only after Germany lost nearly all men of fighting age, and even after the war those who were not killed were enslaved by the USSR for decades.

          In China, during and after the Civil War the CPC executed millions of "class enemies", Nationalist counter-revolutionaries to remove the ability to destabilize the new order.

          With IS we are facing a situation where we have an enemy that cannot be effectively deterred. To arrest the violence virtually the entire leadership of IS from small units on up have to be liquidated.
          US threatened to remove Japan's capability to conduct further actions by removing Japanese people from the face of the earth during WW2.

          People can fight without weapons and organizations.

          Weapons and organizations cannot fight without people. Well...unless we're talking about Skynet.
          "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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          • some updates:
            http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/17...ws.google.com/

            what blow my mind is the alleged mastermind. how did they let him back into Belgium after fighting for IS?

            Also, one of the suicide bombers confirmed to have entered Europe with the refugee flow.

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            • Originally posted by citanon View Post
              some updates:
              http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/17...ws.google.com/

              what blow my mind is the alleged mastermind. how did they let him back into Belgium after fighting for IS?

              Also, one of the suicide bombers confirmed to have entered Europe with the refugee flow.
              By destroying sovereignty of the nations and their national identity in the name of globalization and under the mask of human rights.

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              • Originally posted by anil View Post
                In american geopolitics, the ISIS are good terrorists, similar to how the taliban and others were in afg before sep 11, 2001
                Good terrorists the US continues to kill in job lots?

                A good little American proxy wouldn't have taken Mosul, flooded Jordan with refugees, or required US airstrikes to keep Erbil in Kurdish hands.

                America doesn't lose much sleep over watching Assad and ISIS busy themselves killing each other but a stable Syria, or at least a contained conflict, is much better for American geopolitical goals than a power vacuum filled by Sunni extremists.

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                • West is firm, in it's belief that Apple can beat Koran and that ideology is the main driving force that governs the way how this matter is handled. What it fails to see is that this picture is formed only from its narrow field of view, it sees things that it thinks that would be beneficial and focuses on those things only, ignoring the whole aspect of the problem. Having Europe filled with young men, it sees them as a workforce and to some extent, cheap workforce which means higher profits and that is beneficial for the West. It sees them as an obedient population that can be easily and cheaply controlled. From their point of view, Muslims are ideal resource for profit gaining. Allegorically Western elite is thrilled with these events, as it sees this process as second enlightenment.

                  And they couldn't be more wrong.
                  Last edited by Versus; 16 Nov 15,, 22:56.

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                  • Austria and Slovenia are closing their borders, Macedonia and Croatia will likely to follow these steps. Willy's letter was true.
                    Last edited by Versus; 17 Nov 15,, 07:47.

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                    • Originally posted by citanon View Post
                      some updates:
                      http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/17...ws.google.com/

                      what blow my mind is the alleged mastermind. how did they let him back into Belgium after fighting for IS?

                      Also, one of the suicide bombers confirmed to have entered Europe with the refugee flow.
                      Yes, Belgium is a little embarrassed after it turns out most of the suspects entered France via Belgium, hence Belgium's "overreaction" to the news that one of the abandoned rental cars was found in Brussels. Sounds like closing the barn door after the horses have already left . . .
                      "There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge

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                      • You know what bothers me? How quickly France has switched to a months long state of emergency and extra-judicial detentions. From what I understand this is within the law in France but still disturbing. Now there's even talk of amending the constitution to give extra options on the holding of terror suspects. Yet, there's not even any debate on the news outlets. It all seems natural and reasonable.

                        Dick Cheney was right about how quickly Western freedoms can be curtailed in the face of serious terrorist activity. Much of a citizenry are willing to give up liberty for security.

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                        • "...Dick Cheney was right about how quickly Western freedoms can be curtailed in the face of serious terrorist activity. Much of a citizenry are willing to give up liberty for security"

                          In America we do list "life" before "liberty" and "the pursuit of happiness" as an inalienable right. I'm sure that's the case elsewhere too.
                          "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
                          "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs

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                          • You might notice a not so strange pattern wrt the lifestyle and the according voting habits of certain groups .With the corresponding policies that result from voting,that have led to the current and future mess.
                            It's not about foreigners attacking us in the first place.It's a civil war brewing in the West between those who do something and those who'd rather sit on their arse all day long.Those two classes have always existed.With the advent of democracy and socialism,the good for nothing are empowered and managed to reverse a natural order of the world that placed them on the bottom.
                            What we're seeing is the symptom of a deeper disease.We're observing darwinism on momentous scale at civilization level.

                            Like in Rome,it will lead to civil war.I don't think normal political debate will succeed.
                            Those who know don't speak
                            He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

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                            • France has officially claimed Article 42 (7) of the Lisbon Treaty today.

                              If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.

                              Article 42 (7) is far more strongly worded and requires far more committing than NATO Article 5, in case anyone wonders. In other words:
                              500 million people just went to war with ISIS as of 10 am this morning.

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                              • Originally posted by kato View Post
                                France has officially claimed Article 42 (7) of the Lisbon Treaty today.

                                If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.

                                Article 42 (7) is far more strongly worded and requires far more committing than NATO Article 5, in case anyone wonders. In other words:
                                500 million people just went to war with ISIS as of 10 am this morning.
                                key words

                                "aid and assistance"

                                "by all means in their power"

                                it can mean everything, or nothing actually.

                                Basically its just a wordy way of saying "I'll do my best".

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