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    Quote Originally Posted by antimony View Post
    I think there is an added option where a quick recharge will be a 15 mins wait. Still long compared to a gas tank fillup, but not a deal breaker. The price is still the deal breaker
    They are releasing the Model 3 next summer I think. $35000 is much more affordable. Don't know much about the specs though.

    EDIT: They are unveiling it and not releasing next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthSiddius View Post
    They are releasing the Model 3 next summer I think. $35000 is much more affordable. Don't know much about the specs though.

    EDIT: They are unveiling it and not releasing next year.
    Oh sweet mother of mercy I want one so bad :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthSiddius View Post
    *drooling intensifies*
    Don't drool too much. Consumer Reports gave the car the highest score a car has ever achieved during their tests for handling, performance and economy. Then a few weeks later CR amended that by saying Tesla has chronic reliability problems.

    The main problem areas involved the drivetrain, power equipment, charging equipment, giant iPad-like center console, and body and sunroof squeaks, rattles, and leaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Don't drool too much. Consumer Reports gave the car the highest score a car has ever achieved during their tests for handling, performance and economy. Then a few weeks later CR amended that by saying Tesla has chronic reliability problems.

    The main problem areas involved the drivetrain, power equipment, charging equipment, giant iPad-like center console, and body and sunroof squeaks, rattles, and leaks.
    Long term an electric motor demolishes a regular combustion engine in reliability. Tesla's are still relatively new to the market and I'm sure they will keep improving their product over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthSiddius View Post
    Long term an electric motor demolishes a regular combustion engine in reliability. Tesla's are still relatively new to the market and I'm sure they will keep improving their product over time.
    Indeed. And I suspect they'll do a better job of responding to consumer complaints than, GM, for example.
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    a bit of a thread hijack here, but I'm pretty sure in about 10, 15 years at the most, we'll see a significant number of self-driving cars. that's being quite conservative; a lot of business intel forecasts think 10 million self-driving cars in 5 years.

    combine that with electric batteries and we'll have a lot less traffic accidents/deaths and a lot less gasoline being burned. fewer traffic jams!

    there's a lot of second-order effects to this, too. good-bye to the profession of truck driver, for one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis View Post
    combine that with electric batteries and we'll have a lot less traffic accidents/deaths and a lot less gasoline being burned. fewer traffic jams!
    Imagine the pollution reduction in cities that have massive traffic congestion.

    All those ICE powered cars no longer idling in gridlock, spewing exhaust into the air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis View Post
    there's a lot of second-order effects to this, too. good-bye to the profession of truck driver, for one.
    Not so fast. The oil sands have been using robotic trucks for a long time but they still require a human operator sitting behind the wheel. There's not been one trip where the human driver did not put on the brakes because of something unexpected. A charging moose for one.
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    the google driverless car has been doing good-- in fact a lot better than your average driver-- automated radar processes have been improving. and with more and more automated cars on the road, you're talking about a much more stable system where computers can interact with each other vice a more unpredictable human.

    but yeah, I'm pretty certain there will still be a manual option for a human driver to take over in case of something that the AI can't handle, or because of some freak computer accident.

    long haul trucks though? just automate them and then track 'em with yet another computer system; FedEx is experimenting with that already.

    same thing with Amazon and delivery drones.
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    TH - thanks for all the information. Darth, it's still electric and beyond my capability to own one. Again it's electric. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    The batteries would be powered to light up villages? How would they be charged again, solar power?
    Btw, what is it about Tesla cars? They aren't Porsche. It's just another electric car. And a Tesla Model S is priced above $70,000. Why???
    I think the government was talking about a effective way to store solar energy, for the times that the sun is not there, and that Tesla battery technology is of great value there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuku View Post
    I think the government was talking about a effective way to store solar energy, for the times that the sun is not there, and that Tesla battery technology is of great value there.
    Yep, that's pretty much the idea I think. Or when normal power supplies are disrupted due to infrastructure damage or what-have-you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter View Post
    Imagine the pollution reduction in cities that have massive traffic congestion.

    All those ICE powered cars no longer idling in gridlock, spewing exhaust into the air.
    All you're doing is shifting the pollution from the tail pipe to the smoke stack. Cars my have no pollution but the electric power plants will be spewing their wastes like no tomorrow.
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    yes, there's a shift, but will it be significantly worse than existing car factories?

    i expect as electric power/solar power improves still further and spreads, then you get volume savings as well.
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