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  • #46
    Originally posted by cataphract View Post
    Lol so anyone who disagrees with your highness is a bhakt, sanghi, haflwit, etc. And I'm the one who's supposed to be the narrow minded bigot. Do you not see the problem here?
    Not anyone who disagrees, nope. But someone whose first post in this thread is -
    Originally posted by cataphract View Post
    If you care so much about the image of the nation, why are you posting this shit on a global forum?
    You can disagree, it's your right, and my right is to post any thread I see fit. This incident was reported by prominent media outlets all over the world, and you ask me why I posted it over and over again. Talk on the topic, not why someone opened a thread. Don't like it don't post. Just ignore. And if there is any sense in you, do criticize incidents like these, on a global forum, so that people here know that we are not entirely fucked up as a Nation. That there are people who care.

    Originally posted by cataphract View Post
    Lol ok. You might want to tone down the personal attacks before you go whining to the mods.
    You started it with your first post. Don't want to go down the line? Don't start it.
    Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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    • #47
      BF, it happened in Konark Restaurant. Apparently some of these religious idiots were filming him inside the restaurant, the Aussie felt uncomfortable and asked the waiter to request those guys not to shoot with their mobile phone. The religious zealots didn't relent, there was a small argument, the argument went outside, and you know what happened after that. The guy is working for Phelps foundation/NGO/something, which has something to do with swimming, IIRC. And yeah, don't expect a sorry or anything intelligent from the radicals. We live to fail the country almost on a daily basis, and are good with excuses. I do apologize for the incident, for it happened in my adopted city.
      Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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      • #48
        Bihar polls 2015: RSS steps up help to BJP, invokes 'Hindu self-esteem'

        Wasn't development supposed to be the agenda since the 2014 LS elections? What a bunch of hypocrites.
        Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Oracle View Post
          And if there is any sense in you, do criticize incidents like these, on a global forum, so that people here know that we are not entirely fucked up as a Nation. That there are people who care.
          I don't presume to speak for a nation of 1.2 billion people and neither should you. WAB is not a community that is particularly interested in the social affairs of India, and there is no expertise here on that topic. There are 250 million Indians on the internet. Go talk to them if you really care.

          Originally posted by Oracle View Post
          You started it with your first post. Don't want to go down the line? Don't start it.
          I'm not the one threatening a mod report on every third line.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bolo121 View Post
            What I see is that the previous situation persists plus now the religious nasties have come out to play. Thus the uptick.
            Bolo, I am an NRI, so I can only judge events back home based on reports in the Indian media (in whom I have zero faith) and conversations with friends and family back home. How has the situation on the ground changed where you stay?

            I get the feeling that the English media in India is on an orchestrated campaign to drum up every communal incident in India today and blame the central govt for it, as if these incidents haven't happened under the previous govts for the past 70 years. Conveniently ignored are the facts:
            1. Law and order is states' responsibility and the central govt can do little in this regard.
            2. The cow slaughter ban was legislated by the congress govt years ago.

            Here is one source for my claims:

            https://factly.in/communal-incidents...n-in-8-states/

            For the record, I think the Modi govt has failed to shut down their whackjobs like Sadhvi Prachi, who are inflaming the current situation.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Oracle View Post
              BF, it happened in Konark Restaurant. Apparently some of these religious idiots were filming him inside the restaurant, the Aussie felt uncomfortable and asked the waiter to request those guys not to shoot with their mobile phone. The religious zealots didn't relent, there was a small argument, the argument went outside, and you know what happened after that. The guy is working for Phelps foundation/NGO/something, which has something to do with swimming, IIRC. And yeah, don't expect a sorry or anything intelligent from the radicals. We live to fail the country almost on a daily basis, and are good with excuses. I do apologize for the incident, for it happened in my adopted city.
              No need to apologize Oracle, it only reflects on those responsible & those who rushed to make excuses.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by cataphract View Post
                Bolo, I am an NRI, so I can only judge events back home based on reports in the Indian media (in whom I have zero faith) and conversations with friends and family back home. How has the situation on the ground changed where you stay?

                I get the feeling that the English media in India is on an orchestrated campaign to drum up every communal incident in India today and blame the central govt for it, as if these incidents haven't happened under the previous govts for the past 70 years. Conveniently ignored are the facts:
                1. Law and order is states' responsibility and the central govt can do little in this regard.
                2. The cow slaughter ban was legislated by the congress govt years ago.

                Here is one source for my claims:

                https://factly.in/communal-incidents...n-in-8-states/

                For the record, I think the Modi govt has failed to shut down their whackjobs like Sadhvi Prachi, who are inflaming the current situation.
                Yes this view that the media is against modi has been mentioned to me by other NRI acquaintances also. I don't agree, since its advertising in the same media that helped with his modi wave.
                I think that yes incidents did happen earlier, it just feels much more blatant now. They are emboldened and feel that Amit Shah and Modi have their back.
                Stuff like this hardly reassures. They are getting ready and looking for a spark to fan the flames.
                RSS targets muslims-christians vows curb demographic imbalance

                In non BJP ruled states yes we could say the law and order defence. But you have to consider the local situation also.
                For example even if its Congress in power, Bangalore city itself is solidly in BJP hands as confirmed with the BBMP elections.
                Just for example there were some foreign supermarkets where you could still buy buffalo meat (marked as oxen).
                When I went recently it was all gone, they got a polite visit from the local RSS chief.
                Last edited by bolo121; 01 Nov 15,, 11:26.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by cataphract View Post
                  I don't presume to speak for a nation of 1.2 billion people and neither should you. WAB is not a community that is particularly interested in the social affairs of India, and there is no expertise here on that topic. There are 250 million Indians on the internet. Go talk to them if you really care.
                  I don't speak for 1.23 billion. I speak for myself and what is wrong. If you don't see the topic at disgusting, you need to seriously have a look in the mirror.

                  Originally posted by cataphract View Post
                  I'm not the one threatening a mod report on every third line.
                  I will, when you troll in the very first post in this thread.
                  Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by cataphract View Post
                    Bolo, I am an NRI, so I can only judge events back home based on reports in the Indian media (in whom I have zero faith) and conversations with friends and family back home. How has the situation on the ground changed where you stay?

                    I get the feeling that the English media in India is on an orchestrated campaign to drum up every communal incident in India today and blame the central govt for it, as if these incidents haven't happened under the previous govts for the past 70 years. Conveniently ignored are the facts:
                    1. Law and order is states' responsibility and the central govt can do little in this regard.
                    2. The cow slaughter ban was legislated by the congress govt years ago.

                    Here is one source for my claims:

                    https://factly.in/communal-incidents...n-in-8-states/

                    For the record, I think the Modi govt has failed to shut down their whackjobs like Sadhvi Prachi, who are inflaming the current situation.
                    The idiot who threatened to skin the Aussie is a BJP member. He failed to get elected in BBMP elections in 2011. Now, you're correct when you say law and order is a State subject. But what stopped BJP from sacking that guy from the party? Well, BJP didn't even talk about this issue.
                    Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by cataphract View Post
                      I don't presume to speak for a nation of 1.2 billion people and neither should you. WAB is not a community that is particularly interested in the social affairs of India, and there is no expertise here on that topic. There are 250 million Indians on the internet. Go talk to them if you really care.
                      Good that you realized that. Now stop trying to tell others what they should or should not post. If you think someone's facts are wrong, you are free to dispute. If you are not interested in the topic, you are free not to participate
                      "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by antimony View Post
                        Good that you realized that. Now stop trying to tell others what they should or should not post. If you think someone's facts are wrong, you are free to dispute. If you are not interested in the topic, you are free not to participate
                        Well said.

                        I can only echo this in the strongest possible terms.

                        If you're going to debate, then debate.
                        “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                          If you're going to debate, then debate.
                          Originally posted by Oracle
                          ...skin the Aussie...
                          I like it, sounds like a catchy name for a board game, should we make one?
                          Ego Numquam

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                          • #58
                            An era on intolerance has emerged over the past 18 months due to numerous events that has propelled some writers and artists to give back their literary awards in protest. The Government and RSS have reacted by ridiculing them. The fact that escapes the RSS and its supporters is that - this Govt appears to be backing and supporting the accused in the spate of religious motivated incidents of violence. The statements of its elected lawmakers and MPs are a reflection of their support to the goons. When the representatives of the Govt justify this violence, then what hope is there of justice?...and the Govt wonders "why are people saying there is intolerance growing".

                            Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by lemontree View Post
                              An era on intolerance has emerged over the past 18 months due to numerous events that has propelled some writers and artists to give back their literary awards in protest. The Government and RSS have reacted by ridiculing them. The fact that escapes the RSS and its supporters is that - this Govt appears to be backing and supporting the accused in the spate of religious motivated incidents of violence. The statements of its elected lawmakers and MPs are a reflection of their support to the goons. When the representatives of the Govt justify this violence, then what hope is there of justice?...and the Govt wonders "why are people saying there is intolerance growing".
                              True, no doubt about what you said. A small part of me wants this Government to rein in the retards or go ASAP, while the bigger part wants them to stay. Had enough of Congress, socialist policies and freebies.

                              During the 2014 elections, a lot of not so desired people got elected riding on the Modi wave. Now, why did BJP give those a ticket to contest elections? Win-ability factor. This is true in US, Europe, and even in 3rd world countries. Nobody bets on a dead horse. BJP wanted a full mandate, even if that means giving tickets to undesirable elements. Now, why is Modi trying so hard to win Bihar? They desperately need the numbers in RS to go up, to an extent, that when they have the votes to pass laws and bring in reforms they would cut loose those idiots who are making communal noises now. This is me giving some breathing space to BJP. :-)
                              Last edited by Oracle; 05 Nov 15,, 14:03.
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                              • #60
                                Ever since godra, criticism to modi have been affecting him inversely. When criticisms reached their peak, he came out as the prime minister of the country. The critics of modi are too feeble minded to understand this simple psychology.

                                The current nonsense with some entertainment artists and celebrities returning awards as a political statement is going to have the same effect on modi and his govt as before.

                                2 weeks ago, shiv sena was being bashed in the national media for opposing pakistani artist from playing in mumbai. From the news, it would appear that they had shot their own foot. To the contrary, 2 days ago they came out as the major party in the local civic polls.

                                Clearly, many of you indian members don't understand how polarizing politics works. The BJP does it the same way the congress has been doing it with the minorities for most of its existence.

                                Nothing has changed. India hasn't turning pro-tolerance or anti-tolerance. The current hulla is just an aftershock of the general elections.
                                Last edited by anil; 05 Nov 15,, 18:38.

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