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    Quote Originally Posted by Albany Rifles View Post
    We actually do both. Purification for bulk. And we have the ability to build water farms...I have seen them. But bottled water is easier to move by pallet and transload to aircraft.

    And you may have noticed I said water is NOT a commodity which is an issue.
    To an outsider like me it seems like a trivial issue. Why can't these decisions be made on a mission level? Want to supply a military base like Bagram? Put up a purification plant. Want to hunt Bin Laden on a chopper? Take a few bottles with you.

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    What would you do with a Brigade Level Initial Entry Force (6000 men)? Bottles or a truck? Remember, you're the initial force and have not secured a water source yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    What would you do with a Brigade Level Initial Entry Force (6000 men)? Bottles or a truck? Remember, you're the initial force and have not secured a water source yet.
    I would go with bottles, since I don't want to have to protect a big soft target that is a purification plant, instead of focusing on the mission.

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    You do know that machines drink more than men
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    You do know that machines drink more than men
    Doesn't have to be potable water for vehicles. Water tankers in the supply columns, along with other supplies.

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    Then why bring in bottled water? Filters are a dime a dozen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    I remember watching some show about a combat outpost in A-stan. There were pallets of bottled water in all over the base. I hope they have a special recycle bin for all that plastic. We don't want to make Green Peace angry.
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    If I recall correctly, scotch is supposed to be room temperature. There is no definition of room temperature if I recall correctly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    If I recall correctly, scotch is supposed to be room temperature. There is no definition of room temperature if I recall correctly
    They renamed it to "ambiental".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    If I recall correctly, scotch is supposed to be room temperature. There is no definition of room temperature if I recall correctly
    That's right sir. Spirits from Europe were made for "room temperature" or "ambient temperature." The thing was most of these were made in higher latitudes like the British isles. Ambient temperature there was and still is lower than most of US.

    I believe scotch should be consumed at around 60F, maybe in the range between 55F and 65F. That is the ambient temperature in higher latitudes one a nice summer night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
    Doesn't have to be potable water for vehicles. Water tankers in the supply columns, along with other supplies.
    The US only produces potable water during water production. Potable water actually works better in machines as it has more of the impurities removed. It also eases care and maintenance of the water tanks.

    In the US military, using the Colonel's scenario, a US brigade combat team and/or MEB has internal limited water purification and production capability. Follow on forces provide bulk. For assault palletized makes a LOT more sense. Additionally every soldier gets water purification tablets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    How they keep it chill on the desert sun?
    Wait for the night to cool it off.

    If possible ice can be shipped forward from ice plants (civilian or military) but that is limited. It is a real morale boost.

    But the water is usually at the ambient temperature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albany Rifles View Post
    Wait for the night to cool it off.

    If possible ice can be shipped forward from ice plants (civilian or military) but that is limited. It is a real morale boost.

    But the water is usually at the ambient temperature.
    Wow! American logistics is lavish enough to ship ice to combat outposts. It reminds me of that scene in "Battle of the Bulge" when the German commander confided to his aide that the war was already lost because his raiding party captured a fresh cake from the Americans. He said the Americans had the spare capacity to ship a fresh cake from Boston across the Atlantic to the front line of France. Germany was doomed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    Wow! American logistics is lavish enough to ship ice to combat outposts. It reminds me of that scene in "Battle of the Bulge" when the German commander confided to his aide that the war was already lost because his raiding party captured a fresh cake from the Americans. He said the Americans had the spare capacity to ship a fresh cake from Boston across the Atlantic to the front line of France. Germany was doomed.
    Yes, and the Germans probably couldn't have even gotten one from Germany, which was only 100 miles to the east!
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