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  • U.k.: The labour party's two word suicide note

    In 1983, the year Jeremy Corbyn was first elected to the House of Commons, the Labour party stood on a platform promising unilateral disarmament, the nationalization of industry, support for a united Ireland and asking the United Nations to referee Britain’s dispute with Argentina over the Falkland Islands. It was a platform later and memorably dubbed the “longest suicide note in political history”.

    In 2020, by contrast, the party appears determined to offer the shortest suicide note in political history. It will consist of just two words: Jeremy Corbyn.
    It is hard to over-state Corbyn’s radicalism. So much so, in fact, that any taxonomy of his beliefs reveals a left-winger who might have been created by his opponents. Corbyn is the kind of socialist conservatives dream about running against.

    So how did it come to this? How have Labour elected a man who, as chairman of the anti-Iraq war “Stop the War” coalition, endorsed the Iraqi “resistance” and welcomed its attacks on British troops? How has the party chosen as its standard bearer a man who refers to Hamas and Hezbollah as “friends”? Why is Labour now led by a man who, in 1984, welcomed IRA bombers to the House of Commons just two weeks after the IRA attempted to assassinate Margaret Thatcher and her cabinet in Brighton?
    UKIP of course has represented the rise of relatively mainstream(ish) right wing activism, but this is so far left as to be beyond comprehension. Liberals going batshit crazy: well there's a surprise.
    Last edited by Parihaka; 13 Sep 15,, 05:57. Reason: forgot link
    In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

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    Pari,it's not surprising.It's a trend widespread in the entire Western world.Left and right are growing further apart.
    Those who know don't speak
    He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

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    • #3
      Pari, thanks, I got a good chuckle out of the first blurb.

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      • #4
        Well, Maggie was not electable qgen she won party elections.
        No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

        To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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        • #5
          Doc,

          Maggie was gifted a disastrous Labor government & Michael Foot, a Labor opposition leader on whom Corbyn has clearly based himself. he dragged the party so far left that it split (moderates formed the SDP, which later merged with the Liberal Party & ultimately formed the Lib/Dems) & ended up getting barely more of the vote than the SDP. The thread's title sounds like a reference to a quip someone made about the platform Foot took to the 1983 election - 'the longest suicide note in history'. The scale of the electoral defeat that followed & the damage Foot did to the image of Labor as a credible party of government had an impact well beyond that election.

          If Corbyn goes to the next election as leader British Labor will most likely face a similar fate. Short of a complete internal collapse of the Tory Party you can pretty much write off Labor for at least the next election & possibly the one after. This is a lifeline for the Lib/Dems, who will offer an alternative for moderate Labor voters who can't bring themselves to vote Tory. Corbyn will have a short honeymoon - 'gee, he's so unlike all those other grey suited & rehearsed politicians' - followed by a collapse as people actually pay attention to what he believes and believed. When that happens most of his supporters will blame everyone but themselves. Not learning machines I'm afraid.
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          • #6
            Big,

            i am fully aware that this leader looks like a bloody disaster for the party. Yet, despite all odds he became a leader to the second biggest party in the UK. People still call him not-electable. Guess he learned a trick or few in the past four decades. But then again, you have him praising Venezuelan economic system. In june 2015 ffs.

            I am in awe.
            No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

            To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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            • #7
              He got lucky Doc. Labour changed its system for voting in leaders. Gave it over to members & then let people join for a mere 3 pounds. Several hundred thousand joined. I'm afraid these people do not reflect the larger electorate or even the Parliamentary party who now have to support him. Being electable within the party doesn't mean much. He is a bad idea generator. Strap in for the ride.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bigfella View Post
                He got lucky Doc. Labour changed its system for voting in leaders. Gave it over to members & then let people join for a mere 3 pounds. Several hundred thousand joined. I'm afraid these people do not reflect the larger electorate or even the Parliamentary party who now have to support him. Being electable within the party doesn't mean much. He is a bad idea generator. Strap in for the ride.
                Specifically it's suspected large numbers of conservatives joined just to vote for him.



                Heh.
                In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                Leibniz

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                • #9
                  So, this lad is not singing the anthem on BoB day. Smooth.
                  No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                  To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                  • #10
                    Bliar ands the rest of the careerists said that ordinary people had no choice but to vote for them, but the point of having two tory parties has more and more escaped everyone, and the millions of voters the careerists drove out will come back if we kick these useless scoundrels out.

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                    • #11
                      And, by the way, why do we need a fuhrer who sings royalist songs?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Parihaka View Post
                        Specifically it's suspected large numbers of conservatives joined just to vote for him.



                        Heh.
                        Thats exactly the thoughts lots had , and the labour tossers will never ever get elected with that treacherous terrorist loving wank#r

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Parihaka View Post
                          this is so far left as to be beyond comprehension
                          Just because your "right-wing" means fascist doesn't mean centrist policies are "far left".

                          If he was on a ballot i'd have problems voting for him for not being left enough (and being too green), and his anti-EU views pretty much make him a definite no for me.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kato View Post
                            Just because your "right-wing" means fascist doesn't mean centrist policies are "far left".

                            If he was on a ballot i'd have problems voting for him for not being left enough (and being too green), and his anti-EU views pretty much make him a definite no for me.
                            Hamas are his friends, he doesn't sing the anthem, but you expect him to vote for EU? I giggled.

                            BTW, how much more left should he be? He praises Venezuelan economy model.
                            No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                            To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kato View Post
                              Just because your "right-wing" means fascist doesn't mean centrist policies are "far left".

                              If he was on a ballot i'd have problems voting for him for not being left enough (and being too green), and his anti-EU views pretty much make him a definite no for me.
                              'Centrist' used to mean between the CP and the Social Democrats., and now it means nothing. Clearly the mass of voters are way to the left of the careerists.

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