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    Mullah Omar Death Coverup Justified By Taliban

    Taliban say Omar death covered up to wait out NATO drawdown

    The Taliban Monday admitted covering up the death of longtime leader Mullah Omar for two years, saying they had wanted to keep it secret until foreign forces ended their fight against the militants.

    The group confirmed in July that Omar had died but did not say when, deepening internal divisions. Many insurgents accused the leadership of keeping them in the dark while issuing statements in his name.

    The admission of a cover-up was buried in a lengthy biography of new Taliban chief Mullah Akhtar Mansour, apparently published to improve his image and quell the growing internal rancour over his appointment.

    Posted on the Taliban website in five languages, the biography acknowledged that Omar died in April 2013 -- as was first claimed by Afghan intelligence.

    "Several key members of the supreme leading council of the Islamic Emirate (Taliban) and authentic religious scholars together decided on concealing the tragic news of passing away of (Omar)... and keep this secret limited to the very few colleagues who were already informed of this incorrigible loss," said the biography, which ran to nearly 5,000 words.

    "One of the main reasons behind this decision was... that 2013 was considered the final year of power testing between the mujahideen and foreign invaders who... had announced that at the end of 2014, all military operations by foreign troops would be concluded."

    NATO ended its combat mission in Afghanistan last December and pulled out the bulk of its troops, although a 13,000-strong residual force remains for training and counter-terrorism operations.

    Omar, dead or alive, was seen as a unifying figurehead who observers say kept the fractious movement from splintering as the rival Islamic State (IS) group began making inroads into Afghanistan.

    The Taliban had continued as recently as July to release official statements in the name of Omar, lionised as a "commander of the faithful" who commanded the loyalties of militants across the region.

    "The Taliban had to conceal the death of a leader who had an uncanny power to rally militants around him," Kabul-based military analyst Atiqullah Amarkhil told AFP.

    "His name was enough to prevent the Taliban's disintegration."

    But the Taliban apparently came under pressure to confirm his death after the Afghan spy agency said he died two years ago in a Karachi hospital.

    - 'Jihadi acumen' -

    The Taliban biography of Mansour lauded his "jihadi acumen", describing him as a pious warrior who is "naturally bequeathed with unique leading and guiding capabilities".

    It said his biggest achievement was revamping Afghanistan's fledgling air fleet and airports as the civil aviation minister during the Taliban's 1996-2001 rule over the country.

    The biography was also peppered with details about his frugal lifestyle, saying "he likes and wears loose, neat and clean clothes... (and) dislikes and avoids extravagance".

    It added that he "speaks less and tries to listen more to other people".

    Mansour's contentious rise to power has triggered a power struggle within the Taliban, which has suffered a string of defections to IS.

    The biography said Mansour's appointment was "totally legitimate".

    But some top leaders including Omar's son and brother have refused to pledge allegiance to Mansour, saying the process to select him was rushed and biased.

    The power struggle, observers say, could be a very effective recruitment tool for IS, potentially helping it attract more Taliban turncoats.

    Can't say I blame them, considering how much hay was able to be made after Bin Ladin's death.
    But the problem with coverups is that it damages the hell out of your credibility. Guess they figured they had to take the risk

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    I'm fine with the Taliban covering up Mullah Omar's death for 2 years. Bit more pissed at Pakistan's 'deep state' covering up his whereabouts for 10.

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    Interesting interview with General Khwaja Ziauddin Butt. This chap was supposed to take over as Army Chief before Musharraf launched his coup. After a lot of hand wringing about how pious he was and how crappy Musharraf was, he open up about this last meetings with Mullah Omar. This was after the assasinatin attempt on NAwaz Sharif. Some of the hilarious quotes (from around 5:00)

    About Bin Laden
    Omar(as per Butt) : He is an albatross around my neck. If I try to remove him the jundi (soldiers) will murder me
    Butt: But you take money from him
    Omar(as per Butt): I have not got 2 rupees from him. Its all a propaganda
    Omar(as per Butt) : Let's have a commission of 4 judges to try Bin Laden. If he is found guilty then I can hand him over
    Butt : Lets have an odd number of judges
    Omar(as per Butt): Fine, lets have five. One from Saudi Arabia, one from the Taliban, one from Pakistan and one from UAE. The 5th can be from any neutral country.
    Interviewer: so what happened?
    Butt: the US did not agree. If they had agreed, all of this would not have happened

    On terrororism
    Omar(as per Butt) : People say that I am a tourist
    Butt : No people say that you are a terrorist. That is a bad thing

    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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    Huh huh said Butt...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    Huh huh said Butt...
    Originally Bhatt, of Hindu/ Brahmin origins. The one who converted to Islam usually call themselves Butt. Of course in their minds they are all direct descendents of Arabs
    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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