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    Russia claims new tank invisible to radar/IR

    Russian Builder of T-14 Armata claims it has radar and infrared invisibility

    Armour specialists from both Russia and the United States are sceptical of recent claims made by the enterprise that produces Russia's new T-14 Armata MBT that the tank is essentially "invisible" to radar.

    The claim was made by the director of the Nizhi-Tagil-based UralVagonZavod (UVZ) plant, Vyacheslav Khalitov, on Ekho Moskvy radio on 3 July.

    "We essentially made the invisible tank," said Khalitov. He also elaborated on the tank's internal arrangement, stating that key "emitters" that normally make other tanks vulnerable to current-generation anti-armour weapons are fitted as far as possible into the interior of the Armata to reduce its infrared (IR) signature.

    About the tank's own radar signature, Khalitov said the T-14's hull is coated with special radar-absorbing paint and other materials and appliqus that make it difficult to be detected.

    A retired US army flag-rank officer who was involved at the senior levels of AFV development - including that of General Dynamics' M1 Abrams MBT - has analysed the T-14 design and other claims regarding its signature reduction and told IHS Jane's , "These claims would have to be proven. Placing heat-generating components 'deep inside' in the vehicle won't help; modern thermal technology is very sensitive and when the tank is moved, or a weapon is fired, or a person is exposed, the thermal signature will light up. Plus, no matter where the engine is, when an engine big enough to move a 40- to 50-ton tank is fired up, it will have a signature."

    Russian specialists familiar with radar signature reduction techniques told IHS Jane's that "most of this kind of research in Russia has been performed with an eye towards application to aircraft - in order to reduce a signature as seen from another aircraft's radar set or a SAM [surface-to-air missile] radar station. This technology is not optimised for protecting ground targets from air-to-surface attacks.

    "What you are trying to do in reducing a radar return for these scenarios is also very different," one said. "For airborne targets you are trying to reduce an RCS [radar cross-section] to make a lock-on more difficult. For ground targets you would be trying to make a tank indistinguishable from ground clutter. These two do not necessarily overlap in how you approach them."

    In addition to its signature reduction modifications, the T-14's other self-protection features include a new-generation self-protection system that integrates its Malachit exploding dual-reactive armour with an active protection system, designated Afghanit, that employs a millimetre wave radar to track incoming anti-tank weapons and initiate countermeasures. The T-14 also relies on composite, layered armour similar to that used in the M1.
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    It probably gets up and dances too.

    Seriously though, I would imagine this sort of transparently bullshit boasting is more for the domestic audience.
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    Seriously though, I would imagine this sort of transparently bullshit boasting is more for the domestic audience.

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    I guess they had to say something cool about it. Since the one in the Victory parade had to be towed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Grape View Post
    I guess they had to say something cool about it. Since the one in the Victory parade had to be towed off.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/russias-new-t...moscow-1913336
    it didn't break, someone accidentally activated stealth mode.

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    Someone checked Russian radars lately?
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    Does the Pentagon know that Mike Sparks is working for the Russians now?


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    No need for that loser. The T-14 is simply powered by 97 octane Russia Stronkkkk, which gives it superior acceleration and maneuverability compared ro Western tanks while giving off no heat. As an added benefit, the same substance can be sprayed onto the tank to make it invisible to radar. Said tank is then able to transport itself to the front lines by wafting along on the heroic spirit of the Russian people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    Does the Pentagon know that Mike Sparks is working for the Russians now?
    Some things can not be unread. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Some things can not be unread. :-)
    I figure a handful here will get the reference, thus handily sorting out the wheat from the chaff. ;-) I'm hoping Truong makes an appearance, he's a big fan of Sparky & 'invisible tanks' are just the sort of thing the man would be designing. :-D


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    Does the Pentagon know that Mike Sparks is working for the Russians now?

    I just laughed out loud on a bus.

    People are looking at me funny.

    Worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    I figure a handful here will get the reference, thus handily sorting out the wheat from the chaff. ;-) I'm hoping Truong makes an appearance, he's a big fan of Sparky & 'invisible tanks' are just the sort of thing the man would be designing. :-D
    Don't get me wrong, I fkn LOVED the ref.
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    I see that second generation of fashion statement engineers has reached Russian tank design. When I saw this for the first time, I wasn't sure was it an WW2 replica or something else. Unfortunately it was something else. Same story as with pak fa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Grape View Post
    I guess they had to say something cool about it. Since the one in the Victory parade had to be towed off.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/russias-new-t...moscow-1913336
    I love it; supposedly, "the breakdown of the T-14 Armata tank was staged in order to show how the vehicle would be salvaged in a real-life situation". Right. Because everybody LOVES to practice recovering an MBT, especially when you don't have to.

    So, does that mean that they're PLANNING on having it break-down in the field?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albany Rifles View Post
    I just laughed out loud on a bus.

    People are looking at me funny.

    Worth it.

    Nice one, LargeDude!
    Glad to be of service. :-D

    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I fkn LOVED the ref.
    I figured. Thanks. :-)


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    The chieftain was the U/Ks invisible tank with its multi fuel engine , it was always breaking down and spent hours n hours in the workshops ,,making it invisible ,,ha and the T14 im looking forward to the reviews on it before comment .


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