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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedicabby View Post
    I call them gimmegrants.
    They are asylum shoppers which should not be encouraged.

    While I don't think refugees should have to languish in camps for years because of a never ending war and a wrecked country, they don't get a free pass to a first world country

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    Quote Originally Posted by InExile View Post
    Most people would call someone who applies and gets asylum a refugee. Unless you take away their right to get asylum it changes nothing.

    But you can call them what you like.
    of course if someone granted asylum, they're refugees. Its the very definition of refugee, not what "most people would call". so you can't tell the difference between "seeking asylum" and "settle down permanently"? No wonder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhuy View Post
    of course if someone granted asylum, they're refugees. Its the very definition of refugee, not what "most people would call". so you can't tell the difference between "seeking asylum" and "settle down permanently"? No wonder.
    They can only settle down if they get asylum. Otherwise they face deportation as illegal migrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InExile View Post
    They can only settle down if they get asylum. Otherwise they face deportation as illegal migrants.
    again, you make up "facts" and cant seem to read correctly

    so you can't tell the difference between "seeking asylum" and "settle down permanently"? No wonder.
    see what you missed (deliberately i suppose).

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhuy View Post
    again, you make up "facts" and cant seem to read correctly



    see what you missed (deliberately i suppose).
    Okay, they can only settle down permanently if they get asylum.

    Do you know of another way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InExile View Post
    Okay, they can only settle down permanently if they get asylum.

    Do you know of another way?
    Actually, yes.

    Any Kosovar refugees?
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    Quote Originally Posted by InExile View Post
    Okay, they can only settle down permanently if they get asylum.

    Do you know of another way?
    Wrong!

    Granted asylum is not permanent settle down. And vice versa, people can settle down permanently without seeking asylum.

    Seeking asylum and granted = refugee

    choose to move to other country to settle down permanently = immigrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhuy View Post
    Wrong!

    Granted asylum is not permanent settle down. And vice versa, people can settle down permanently without seeking asylum.

    Seeking asylum and granted = refugee

    choose to move to other country to settle down permanently = immigrant
    That's German policy to allow people who get asylum to live permanently and then get citizenship eventually. Most countries are not so generous. But without claiming asylum they would have no chance to settle in Germany.

    Like I said before call them what you like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Actually, yes.

    Any Kosovar refugees?
    How did that happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InExile View Post
    That's German policy to allow people who get asylum to live permanently and then get citizenship eventually. Most countries are not so generous. But without claiming asylum they would have no chance to settle in Germany.

    Like I said before call them what you like
    you don't seem to understand the logic. So if an america decides to move to germany to live then they must seek asylum? because "without claiming asylum they would have no chance to settle in Germany" LOL so what the reason for asylum? Fearing of Obama?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhuy View Post
    you don't seem to understand the logic. So if an america decides to move to germany to live then they must seek asylum? because "without claiming asylum they would have no chance to settle in Germany" LOL so what the reason for asylum? Fearing of Obama?
    An American could apply for residence through other channels like employment or business. He could try to apply for asylum, but he would be denied and deported pretty quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by InExile View Post
    An American could apply for residence through other channels like employment or business. He could try to apply for asylum, but he would be denied and deported pretty quickly
    but but in your glorious wisdom you said "But without claiming asylum they would have no chance to settle in Germany"

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhuy View Post
    but but in your glorious wisdom you said "But without claiming asylum they would have no chance to settle in Germany"
    That's true for most Syrians. They entered the country illegally so without claiming asylum they face immediate deportation

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    Quote Originally Posted by InExile View Post
    That's true for most Syrians. They entered the country illegally so without claiming asylum they face immediate deportation
    are you kidding me? immediate deportation? lol ever heard of the crazy "open border" policy of merkel?
    Last edited by drhuy; 08 Jan 16, at 22:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhuy View Post
    are you kidding me? immediate deportation? lol ever heard of the crazy "open border" policy of merkel?

    They stay while their asylum applications are pending. But people from countries not at war have been deported when their claims are denied

    I don't think Merkel is handling this well; it encourages more people to come

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