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  • #16
    Double post.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
      It is not a statement when the sentence has several conditions in which only one condition can be true. He asked if it was genuine or was it forced by the US. Not a statement, but a question.
      The "as usual" part is a statement.
      Chimo

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
        The "as usual" part is a statement.
        [LAWYER CAP ON]
        According to Black law Dictionary, a statement is:

        What is STATEMENT?

        In a general sense, an allegation; a declaration of matters of fact.

        Merriam Webster Dictionary
        Full Definition of STATEMENT
        1
        : something stated: as
        a : a single declaration or remark : assertion

        According to those two definitions above, it is a statement when the sentence is being used to declare something or assert a fact. In this case, Batista did not make a declaration or assert a fact because to wit, he has put down two conditions and followed it up with a question mark and left the reader to decide which condition is true or the other and must be mutually exclusive.

        The words, "as usual" cannot be taken out out on its own and be declared as a statement. It must be read within the context of the sentence.

        Therefore, in response to Tophatter's claims of trolling or obtuse statements, Batista did the neither. He left the choice to the reader.

        [LAWYER CAP OFF]
        Last edited by Blademaster; 10 Apr 15,, 23:01.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
          I'd reply to your latest delusion but tbm3fan OoE have already done so more than adequately.

          The only thing I'm curious about is, did you honestly expect anybody to believe that deliberately obtuse bullshit?
          The same could be asked regarding your prior statements to that effect, especially that first statement in your first post of this thread. Did it ever occur to you that Russia would step up their game when they saw their own backyard falling into the sphere of influence of NATO and that NATO's objective of containing Russia has not gone away? Did it ever occur to you that you might be intentionally obtuse or oblivious to the fact that NATO's unchecked expansions has prompted this Russian reaction?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
            [LAWYER CAP ON]
            According to Black law Dictionary, a statement is:

            What is STATEMENT?

            In a general sense, an allegation; a declaration of matters of fact.

            Merriam Webster Dictionary
            Full Definition of STATEMENT
            1
            : something stated: as
            a : a single declaration or remark : assertion

            According to those two definitions above, it is a statement when the sentence is being used to declare something or assert a fact. In this case, Batista did not make a declaration or assert a fact because to wit, he has put down two conditions and followed it up with a question mark and left the reader to decide which condition is true or the other and must be mutually exclusive.

            The words, "as usual" cannot be taken out out on its own and be declared as a statement. It must be read within the context of the sentence.

            Therefore, in response to Tophatter's claims of trolling or obtuse statements, Batista did the neither. He left the choice to the reader.

            [LAWYER CAP OFF]
            [Battle cap On]I know exactly what he meant[/Battle Cap Off]
            Chimo

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            • #21
              the "as usual" makes the "dictating" a statement.
              In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

              Leibniz

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
                [LAWYER CAP ON]
                According to Black law Dictionary, a statement is:

                What is STATEMENT?

                In a general sense, an allegation; a declaration of matters of fact.

                Merriam Webster Dictionary
                Full Definition of STATEMENT
                1
                : something stated: as
                a : a single declaration or remark : assertion

                According to those two definitions above, it is a statement when the sentence is being used to declare something or assert a fact. In this case, Batista did not make a declaration or assert a fact because to wit, he has put down two conditions and followed it up with a question mark and left the reader to decide which condition is true or the other and must be mutually exclusive.

                The words, "as usual" cannot be taken out out on its own and be declared as a statement. It must be read within the context of the sentence.

                Therefore, in response to Tophatter's claims of trolling or obtuse statements, Batista did the neither. He left the choice to the reader.

                [LAWYER CAP OFF]
                So my question is Batista a lawyer? If so, as usual, the lawyer was twisting words correct?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
                  .... NATO's objective of containing Russia has not gone away? Did it ever occur to you that you might be intentionally obtuse or oblivious to the fact that NATO's unchecked expansions has prompted this Russian reaction?
                  That's all well and good unless those who joined NATO want protection from Russia.

                  Action / Reaction. They are ever present and flowing. Who's action is causing the reaction?

                  While you're wearing your lawyer cap, is that a question, or a statement?
                  Ego Numquam

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                  • #24
                    Did Batista ask for a lawyer or Hitesh jumped in, uncalled as usual? (This is a statement)

                    Oh mother, what was the OP? (This is a question)
                    Last edited by Doktor; 11 Apr 15,, 09:15.
                    No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                    To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                    • #25
                      To grossly simplify it, I think Hitesh is all in favour of letting the sand pit bully tell the others who they may or may not play with, because the rich kid who has that cool die cast bulldozer won't let him play with it.

                      I think that's a question? This is getting confusing, as usual.
                      Ego Numquam

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                      • #26
                        I...I can't believe I have to break this down and explain it. And to a lawyer no less.

                        You're proclaiming total innocence for Batista and claiming I put words in his mouth. Except that, to anybody with a shred of common sense, what Batista said was (yet another) logical fallacy.

                        Originally posted by Batista View Post
                        Are Nordic Nations saying it by themselves or US dictating the terms as usual for Europe?
                        Hardly a simple question...e.g. a request for information. Batista uses, what is called in common law, a Leading Question. He presupposes guilt for the US ("as usual") forcing ("dictating") itself on Europe.

                        Similar to asking my neighbor "Are you still beating your wife?"

                        Wow...just wow.

                        Once again, I have to ask: Did you really expect anybody to buy your line of bullshit?
                        “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                          I...I can't believe I have to break this down and explain it.
                          The post from Batista was clear of where he wanted to go with that. It's one thing to criticize US policies, and another to constantly spout rubbish.

                          Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                          Once again, I have to ask: Did you really expect anybody to buy your line of bullshit?
                          I see you've already been hit with (in the words of another poster) shit you never said and crap that Blade doesn't understand anyway.
                          Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by kato View Post
                            So, shall we look behind the reasons for this?

                            It's notable in regard to this news that Norway is the only country in NATO-Europe significantly raising its military budget in 2015. Not counting the the Baltics, their budgets are miniscule regardless whether they spend 1% or 100% of GDP. The only other country doing a similar-sized increased is the UK, and they're spending most of that increase on military and economic aid to other countries. Guess how Norway justifies this budget increase.
                            The Swedish defense ministry is currently (since January) in a row with the rest of the (socialist-green) government over finances, and points out perceived intrusions in asking for a 800 million raise for their budget. In Finland, the defense ministry is similarly attempting to prevent yet another cut of their budget, while the government as a whole points out perceived Russian aggression in trying to convince the population to join NATO - only 20% of the population are in favour of this. Denmark is just in because everyone else is in.

                            Iceland? Iceland doesn't even have a defense minister. And yes, i checked just now just to be sure.
                            Tough to understand since I'm not a MP. Are you saying that the increase in military budget of Norway is due to UK giving military and economic aid to other countries?
                            Sweden, Finland - due to recession?

                            I know wiki is not a reliable source, but it says that Iceland has 210 active personnel and 380 in total, and their military expenditure (2011) is 12 million, and deployable military = 0. LAPD can take over Iceland in 2 days.
                            Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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                            • #29
                              Sweden and Finland have been continually lowering their military budgets and actually have had standing parliamentary bills that mandate this for the past couple years. In both countries there are lobby groups trying to have these bills removed and the military budget bolstered.

                              Norway is the only NATO country with a sizable defense budget that is increasing it by a large proportion. See https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuel...015/id2005697/
                              Norway, compared to other countries, is in the somewhat special situation that it has plenty of money to spare due to its oil - however, their currency devaluation against the dollar is reducing the purchasing power of their budget. Similar to the other Nordic countries there are also lobby groups there who demand a higher budget: Report: Norway Needs Budget, Manpower Boost

                              In many cases these lobby groups are working from within the military and/or are connected to the MoDs, which are attempting to finagle more money from their respective governments opposed to spending increases. This is a noticeable political trend among all Nordic countries (save Iceland, but they don't matter anyway).

                              The UK is increasing its budget in 2015 over 2014 and is one of the few NATO countries to do so, but half of that increase is going towards military and economic aid (probably primarily in Iraq).

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                                [Battle cap On]I know exactly what he meant[/Battle Cap Off]
                                Still doesn't make it a statement and we are not in a battlefield.
                                Last edited by Blademaster; 13 Apr 15,, 07:32.

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