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Originally posted by lemontree View PostPakistan will dare not enter its troops in this war, as they will tangle with Iranian interests.
Iran can then get back at them in Balochistan.
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Originally posted by cataphract View PostIran and Pakistan are on the same side when it comes to Balochistan. The Iranian retaliation would be by supporting Shia militias in Pakistan.
Cheers!...on the rocks!!
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Originally posted by lemontree View PostPakistan will dare not enter its troops in this war, as they will tangle with Iranian interests.
Iran can then get back at them in Balochistan.
Basically rock and hard place.
Saudi basically want a scapegoat for a attrition war and to contain the spill in yemen.
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Originally posted by lemontree View PostAnything is possible. But the point is that Pakistan cannot afford to have another antagonised neighbour, as this will eat up their reserves and they will be sitting ducks in any conflict.
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Originally posted by cataphract View PostStill don't see what this has to do with population.
The idea is a united strong Yemen can threaten the Saudis which can open the door for others to meddle too. There is talk that Yemen ceded three provinces to the Saudis in 2000 which had rankled a few people in Yemen.
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Originally posted by Double Edge View PostGot that quote from this show. Listen to the JNU prof from 16:00, see 18:10.
The idea is a united strong Yemen can threaten the Saudis which can open the door for others to meddle too. There is talk that Yemen ceded three provinces to the Saudis in 2000 which had rankled a few people in Yemen.
I don't think the total population of Yemen is a concern (it's smaller than Saudi's anyway) but the fact that there are extensive historic and familial connections that span the border. The Bin Laden family, for example, is originally from Yemen. Any revolutionary fervour that grips Yemen has a chance of spilling over into southern Saudi easily.
Interesting to learn about the three occupied provinces, hadn't known that before.
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Originally posted by cataphract View PostI had never heard of the Rajya Sabha TV!
I don't think the total population of Yemen is a concern (it's smaller than Saudi's anyway) but the fact that there are extensive historic and familial connections that span the border. The Bin Laden family, for example, is originally from Yemen. Any revolutionary fervour that grips Yemen has a chance of spilling over into southern Saudi easily.
See yemen's motto
"Allāh, al-Waṭan, ath-Thawrah, al-Waḥdah"
"God, Country, Revolution, Unity"
Bunch of troublemakers from saudi pov.
Interesting to learn about the three occupied provinces, hadn't known that before.
Not only the chance of unrest spreading into KSA but potentially re-questioning of agreed upon borders too. See the grey area. pretty damn big.
A decade later, controversy over the treaty.
..the Yemeni newspaper Al-Shareh revealed the names of high ranking Yemeni state officials and tribal sheikhs who have been receiving monthly salaries from Saudi Arabia.
Most Yemenis are aware that without this money, the Saudis would not have been able to secure the loyalty of Yemeni officials and influential figures to carry out Riyadh’s interests.
The clearest result of this bribery for many Yemenis was the signing of the Jeddah border agreement in 2000, whereby Yemen eventually conceded the decades-long disputed provinces of Asir, Najran, and Jizan.
In this context, a group of Yemeni activists and rights defenders recently announced the creation of the Asir Movement to reclaim these regions.
Preparations are underway to establish a popular and civil protest movement against the Taif and Jeddah border agreements. The movement stressed the importance of “unifying the internal Yemeni front through rejecting Saudi control over Yemeni decision-making processes and indicting public figures who hold their hands out to Saudi money.”
How widespread this sentiment actually is hard to gauge but it formed the basis of a popular movement that sprung up in 2012 whose goal was to put an end to foreign meddling in domestic affairs. The lack of democracy in Yemen keeps the place off balance. Groups like houthis whose demands were ignored for decades rose up and Saleh siding with them when his chips were down resulted in the present conflict.Last edited by Double Edge; 15 Apr 15,, 11:53.
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Originally posted by lemontree View PostSure, but they are in a much better shape than Pakistan with neighbouring countries.
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Originally posted by lemontree View PostAnything is possible. But the point is that Pakistan cannot afford to have another antagonised neighbour, as this will eat up their reserves and they will be sitting ducks in any conflict.
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