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  • 2000 Iranian troops have crossed into the border - 2 separate prongs
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    • The Iraqi government has confirmed that at least 1,700 were executed in Mosul.

      ISIS has released some new photos on their Twitter account. Some of these photos are of mass executions.

      It is not clear to me (I cannot read/write the Arabic script) what the photo captions say. Could be either Mosul or Tikrit.

      Prisoners are packed into flatbed trucks and transported to an execution site. Once there, they are arranged in shallow trenches and shot.

      The Twitter photos are available below on a non-Twitter webpage.

      Warning: Graphic content
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      • Blood boils seeing at those images. Its unbelievable to the extent that a humans mind can be brain washed. It should be paid back in the same coin.
        It is so. It cant be otherwise

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        • Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
          The Iraqi government has confirmed that at least 1,700 were executed in Mosul.

          ISIS has released some new photos on their Twitter account. Some of these photos are of mass executions.

          It is not clear to me (I cannot read/write the Arabic script) what the photo captions say. Could be either Mosul or Tikrit.

          Prisoners are packed into flatbed trucks and transported to an execution site. Once there, they are arranged in shallow trenches and shot.

          The Twitter photos are available below on a non-Twitter webpage.

          Warning: Graphic content
          This kind of behavior should be severely punished in the 21st century, Paleocene-era barbarians have no place on planet Earth!

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          • Originally posted by ShiningChinaXZ View Post
            This kind of behavior should be severely punished in the 21st century, Paleocene-era barbarians have no place on planet Earth!
            For that to happen somebody has to go there and confront them.

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            • Originally posted by gf0012-aust View Post
              2000 Iranian troops have crossed into the border - 2 separate prongs
              Not enough to pacify Sunni areas by a long shot. Just enough to start up a second Hezbollah in Shiite Iraq.

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              • Russia on Iraq: ‘We told you so’

                As the situation in Iraq begins to looks more and more like a complete state meltdown, Russia has stepped in with a familiar refrain: "We told you so."

                "We are greatly alarmed by what is happening in Iraq. We warned long ago that the affair that the Americans and the Britons stirred up there wouldn't end well," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday, according to Voice of Russia. He also described the Iraq war as a "total failure" and said Russia was sorry that its forecasts had come true.

                It's hard to deny that Russia was vocal in saying that the Iraq war was a bad idea. In March 2003, just as the invasion began, Russian President Vladimir Putin publicly criticized it. It was the "most serious crisis the world has faced since the Cold War," he told the Duma, adding that the fighting would be "fierce" and "drawn out."

                At that point, it was a somewhat surprising move (remember, we were then less than three years into the Putin era, now in its 15th year). These days, we're pretty used to Russian criticisms of U.S. foreign policy, and the finger wagging that comes afterward: Russia loves to remind the United States that it warned against its international follies.

                For example, when the U.S. diplomatic mission in the Libyan city of Benghazi was attacked in 2012, claiming the life of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, the immediate reaction across Russia was neatly summed up by the New York Times' Ellen Barry as "We told you so." And even after the Boston Marathon was bombed by two Chechens last year, killing three people and injuring dozens, Russia again responded pretty much with "We told you so," the New Republic's Julia Ioffe noted at the time. "Putin has repeatedly said there is no such thing as our terrorists and somebody else’s,” Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. “One must not differentiate between them, deal with some and condemn others."

                There's an obvious logic here. Russia's repeated use of "We told you so" also allows it to say: "You didn't listen to us then, so you should listen to us now." Putin has brought up his warnings against intervention in Libya and Iraq as a way to defend his positions on Syria.

                Even so, it's tempting to look at Russia's positions on various conflicts and wonder whether there was something to it. With the events of the past few days, a lot of people probably feel that Putin may well have been right about Iraq (as John Nagl, an Iraq war veteran writes for The Post today, "This is not the end state my friends fought for and died for"). Meanwhile, the chaotic state of Libya today certainly makes you question the path taken there, and as the Syrian war drags on past its third anniversary with no end in sight, perhaps Russia's calls for more dialogue with Bashar al-Assad weren't so terrible after all.

                There are clearly some other factors at play, of course. Critics might also point out that in Iraq, Libya and Syria, Putin has been unusually vocal in his support of strongman leaders — like supports like, you could say. And, of course, economic issues and a dislike of American hegemony no doubt play a role in Putin's criticisms. Plus, Russia's more recent actions in Crimea make criticisms of U.S. intervention look hypocritical.

                But it's also worth remembering that Russia's tone on U.S. involvement in Afghanistan has been more measured. Putin was an early supporter of George W. Bush's war on terror, though Russia's involvement in the Afghanistan war was limited to help with supplies and Putin did later express some criticism. Despite that, just last year, Putin said he hoped the United States would keep its military bases in the country after 2014. Writing in the Moscow Times, Michael Bohm argued that this rare acceptance of U.S. military reach was a sign that Russia was concerned about the security situation in the country to its south and wants the United States to deal with it.

                So perhaps Putin's foreign policy is all based on a jaded realism. But sometimes, in hindsight, jaded realism looks better than the alternative.

                Russia on Iraq: ‘We told you so’ - The Washington Post

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                • Putin's foreign policy is a little closer to 'fascist brutal' than 'jaded realism', but that is a discussion for another thread. of course, you knew that already.
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                  • Originally posted by Bigfella View Post
                    Putin's foreign policy is a little closer to 'fascist brutal' than 'jaded realism', but that is a discussion for another thread. of course, you knew that already.
                    To be fair, many in the West "told them so", too. The dissolution of the state apparatus and the army was a bad move any way you turn it around.
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                    To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                    • Originally posted by citanon View Post
                      Not enough to pacify Sunni areas by a long shot. Just enough to start up a second Hezbollah in Shiite Iraq.
                      The political message is loud&clear.Besides,more can arrive if need arises.

                      After the Katyn inflicted by the ISIL,the name Sunni will disappear from Iraq.Shia death squads of earlier days will be fondly remembered,as nice guys.
                      My pity is reserved,as usually,for the poor chaps caught in the middle of the maelstrom.They are screwed no matter what.

                      However,a Shia victory will result in fewer deaths.It's both strategic and humane to root for the Shia.
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                      He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

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                      • Originally posted by Mihais View Post
                        The political message is loud&clear.Besides,more can arrive if need arises.

                        After the Katyn inflicted by the ISIL,the name Sunni will disappear from Iraq.Shia death squads of earlier days will be fondly remembered,as nice guys.
                        My pity is reserved,as usually,for the poor chaps caught in the middle of the maelstrom.They are screwed no matter what.

                        However,a Shia victory will result in fewer deaths.It's both strategic and humane to root for the Shia.
                        There's no Shia victory Mihais. Not in the way you imagine it. The truth is even if Iran threw in every thing they had into Iraq's lot they wouldn't be able to pacify the Sunnis. If Shia deathsquads tried to operate in Anbar they'd just end up on an ISIL video. This is for Baghdad. The Iranians are clearly aiming for something else, and Maliki is just desperate and foolish.

                        As I said backing the Peshmerga is a no brainer, but down South we need to play this one very carefully (but also with speed).

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                        • an independent Kurdistan within the month?


                          Senior #American delegation is in #Erbil to talk with #Kurdish officials about the latest developments in #Kirkuk and Mosul.

                          State Department declares relocation of many of the #US embassy staff in#Baghdad to #Erbil and #Basra and others would be flown to Amman.

                          Consul of The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan affirms that Jordan supports 'What the people of Kurdistan decide & want'

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                          • Originally posted by citanon View Post
                            There's no Shia victory Mihais. Not in the way you imagine it. The truth is even if Iran threw in every thing they had into Iraq's lot they wouldn't be able to pacify the Sunnis. If Shia deathsquads tried to operate in Anbar they'd just end up on an ISIL video. This is for Baghdad. The Iranians are clearly aiming for something else, and Maliki is just desperate and foolish.

                            As I said backing the Peshmerga is a no brainer, but down South we need to play this one very carefully (but also with speed).
                            If Iraq breaks up into rump states Iran's strategic goals of the Shatt al-Arab marshes, Al Faw Peninsula, iraq's off shore loading facility, Basra and Baghdad and of course the oil most of which is in Shia or Kurd areas. A Sunni rump state isn't desirable for Iran, but it is something Iran can tolerate if it gets the meat off the bone. Plus a prolonged fight in Iraq saps the ISIS in Syria making Assad's battles easier and forces Iraq's Shia into ever heavier reliance on Iran.

                            Here's the thing, I don't think that is necessarily an intolerable situation for the Us if we play our cards right and can continue the current rapprochement with Iran. We need the Sunni jihadist bled out just as much as they do. We've been in bed with the Sunni's for decades and it hasn't worked out for us, they don't even deliver cheap oil anymore.

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                            • Originally posted by rj1 View Post
                              an independent Kurdistan within the month?
                              Given the annexation of the Crimea throwing open the doors to self determination and the fact that the Kurds are (one of?) the largest ethnic groups without out its own state... Why not.

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                              • Originally posted by zraver View Post
                                If Iraq breaks up into rump states Iran's strategic goals of the Shatt al-Arab marshes, Al Faw Peninsula, iraq's off shore loading facility, Basra and Baghdad and of course the oil most of which is in Shia or Kurd areas. A Sunni rump state isn't desirable for Iran, but it is something Iran can tolerate if it gets the meat off the bone. Plus a prolonged fight in Iraq saps the ISIS in Syria making Assad's battles easier and forces Iraq's Shia into ever heavier reliance on Iran.

                                Here's the thing, I don't think that is necessarily an intolerable situation for the Us if we play our cards right and can continue the current rapprochement with Iran. We need the Sunni jihadist bled out just as much as they do. We've been in bed with the Sunni's for decades and it hasn't worked out for us, they don't even deliver cheap oil anymore.
                                I kind of agree.

                                So become buddies with the Iranians?

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