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Originally posted by Versus View PostBecause there is no "East" and the bias is artificial. Russia is an "attempt of the West" and reading those historical books, I see now that it always has been like that.
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Originally posted by Versus View PostThan you didn't understand my answer. You said that it is a big deal, what Russia did, invading a sovereign nation, taking a part of its territory and aiding secession movement and all that contributed to the outbreak of bloody war. What do you think, would happen if Russia didn't acted?
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"...What do you think, would happen if Russia didn't acted?"
If Russia hadn't invaded the Crimea and none of this had happened?
I think there'd be a lot more money in Moscow and a lot more Russian tourists on Crimean beaches.
I think NATO would still be struggling with it's relevancy and, therefore, likely girding their loins to do serious battle with those pesky immigrants.
No sure thing, mind you.
But that was then and this is now."This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs
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Originally posted by S2 View PostYour comment quoted in bold is a rather gross stereotype. Luxembourg and Canada object. So too many others. Most notably the very cold corpses of Stalin and Mao.
They both had forgotten more about brutality than any run-of-the-mill western despot could imagine in his/her wildest dreams. That's just me, though.Chimo
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Originally posted by S2 View Post"...What do you think, would happen if Russia didn't acted?"
If Russia hadn't invaded the Crimea and none of this had happened?
I think there'd be a lot more money in Moscow and a lot more Russian tourists on Crimean beaches.
I think NATO would still be struggling with it's relevancy and, therefore, likely girding their loins to do serious battle with those pesky immigrants.
No sure thing, mind you.
But that was then and this is now.
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostTo the Slavs, the Teutonic Knights, Napoleon, and Hitler, were all from the West.No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
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Versus,
"What is the first thought or emotion, that pops in your mind when you think of Russia?"
The land of missed opportunities."This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs
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Originally posted by S2 View PostVersus,
"What is the first thought or emotion, that pops in your mind when you think of Russia?"
The land of missed opportunities.
Why do you think that they are so unsuccessful in producing thriving society?
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"So, the feeling is negative, in general I mean..."
The "...feeling..." is not that easily pigeon-holed.
"...Why do you think that they are so unsuccessful in producing thriving society?"
Because, in short, Russians have never properly organized and motivated their considerable human capital."This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs
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Originally posted by S2 View Post"So, the feeling is negative, in general I mean..."
The "...feeling..." is not that easily pigeon-holed.
"...Why do you think that they are so unsuccessful in producing thriving society?"
Because, in short, Russians have never properly organized and motivated their considerable human capital.
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