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No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
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Originally posted by Albany Rifles View PostSail4ever, FYI we don't have ICBMs with conventional warheads.
It would be like playing the Super Bowl as a flag football game....in pads....with Janet Jackson as a cheer leader.
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Originally posted by sail4evr View PostDon't be absurd.
Originally posted by sail4evr View PostThe point was to set back the Russian threat. Have you got a better idea?Chimo
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Originally posted by sail4evr View PostDon't be absurd. The point was to set back the Russian threat. Have you got a better idea? We need some creative thought here. Not negativity. Think outside the box. If you can't think of anything then perhaps we should congratulate Obama for a job well done since no-one can think of anything better to do. He must be doing as well as can be expected. It's not his fault if the houses have tied his hands. What is he supposed to do? Sanctions are all he is allowed. Whose fault is that? Putin is obviously being much more creative. By the time sanctions really hurt Putin will own the Donbas. Unless of course you know of some miracle turnaround that I have overlooked...
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A B2 deployment to RAF Lakenheath, enough to keep one in the air at any one time. Make sure it gets photographed over Poland. Tell France it's Mistral aint going anywhere.
A shit load of better options than launching ICBMS....
But... it isn't black and white. You aren't saving the Europeans from anyone. The EU is integrated with all sorts of different political forces at play, wheeling and dealing with many different pressures and inducements seeking podiums and placement. It is the same Europe that has produced the same non-core results and absolute disdain for action with conviction when the worst atrocities of an unchecked state reign free.Ego Numquam
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Originally posted by sail4evr View PostDon't be absurd. The point was to set back the Russian threat. Have you got a better idea? We need some creative thought here. Not negativity. Think outside the box. If you can't think of anything then perhaps we should congratulate Obama for a job well done since no-one can think of anything better to do. He must be doing as well as can be expected. It's not his fault if the houses have tied his hands. What is he supposed to do? Sanctions are all he is allowed. Whose fault is that? Putin is obviously being much more creative. By the time sanctions really hurt Putin will own the Donbas. Unless of course you know of some miracle turnaround that I have overlooked...
I sense your frustration that there doesn't seem to be a plan to deal with the Russians. But be realistic. We here can only speculate on what the US should do. There's a great deal we don't know. We're not privy to what goes on in the sit room at the White House or the JSC tank over at Defense or in the office of the president of Russia. We can't see the intel. We're all relying on the same media reports and uTube videos, and a lot of that is inaccurate and laced with spin or outright propaganda.To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato
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"Albany absurd? And you advocate the US dropping an ICBM over there."
Comedic.
Well done, JAD."This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs
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The EU has rescinded restrictions on technology and military supplies to Ukraine imposed under the criminal Yanukovych regime.
Below the surface, Europeans are exploring avenues to acquire the two French constructed Mistral ships (Vladivostok/Sevastopol) purchased by Russia. Ideas include a purchase by the European Union or NATO.
MH17 investigators continue to collect bodies and body parts at the crash site. The Russians and their mercenaries callously neglected the remains of 80 souls whose corpses have been decomposing in daytime temps of 95° F.
Ukrainian forces have taken the villages of Krasnogorovka and Staromikhailovka, further tightening the military noose around Donetsk.
Originally posted by Bigfella View PostLook at a map of combat over the past month. The 'miracle turnaround' is that the Ukrainian Army is doing fairly well.
On the local tactical level, we are doing very well and are on the verge of a double encirclement on the rebel strongholds of Donetsk and Luhansk. But the larger tactical picture is extremely troubling. If Putin orders Russian forces across the border, our ATO forces will be encircled within a day or so. A northern pincer from the Russian Western Military District (Belgorod) will enter Ukraine in the Kharkiv Oblast and travel south. A southern pincer will enter from Crimea and sprint northeast through the Kherson and Zaporizhia Oblasts. These are the anvils. The hammer will enter the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts of Ukraine from the Russian Southern Military District at Rostov-on-Don and push westward. Putin would probably do this under the aegis of "peacekeeping forces" to "protect Russian speakers". Remember, Ukraine served as a Soviet buffer against the West so most Ukrainian military bases and airfields are congregated in western and central Ukraine. The government ATO forces in eastern Ukraine would probably be enveloped and obliterated within a matter of days.
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Originally posted by Minskaya View PostPosted on Twitter by Russia's Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. Poor form indeed, but this Tweet encapsulates how much of the world views these presidents.
Last edited by sail4evr; 03 Aug 14,, 11:34.
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Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
Tanks are crossing a movable pontoon bridge and one can see vehicles lined up that have already crossed. This seems to be the Siverskiy-Donets river in far southeastern Luhansk oblast (Krasnodon raion) probably somewhere near the village of Popivka. The white rectangles visible in the treeline across the river probably mark the border between Russia and Ukraine. The river here is entirely in Ukraine. From this point rural back-roads will take you westward to the town of Sukhodilsk and highway M04. Unconfirmed. Kyiv is seeking anyone familiar with this remote location. On 14 July, Ukraine reported that a An-26 was shot down in this area by a missile fired from Russia. On July 31, residents reported that a Russian military convoy of 50 vehicles passed through Sukhodilsk.
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Originally posted by sail4evr View PostYes and in some parts of the world leopards are an endangered species. Not to mention that that cat has no more interest in Putin than where its next meal is coming from. That cat would not fight for Putin. There is no loyalty. I would also bet my last $ the cat is sedated and that is the way Russia likes its allies. sedated and on the leash.sigpic
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