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    Democracy is alive n well in Iraq

    Here we go again , democracy given with countless billions of dollars etc and gallons of blood , there they go again , and if it was not for oil , what was the sacrifice for . People worldwide knew it was a futile exercise and the same goes for A/G ,,,,,at least Saddam Hussein had some control .Look at it now , and it will get worse IMO, RIP my comrades in arms , for what, your sacrifices were ?? well let people make their own minds up .




    Attacks in Iraq left 12 people dead Tuesday while security forces said they killed 25 militants near Baghdad amid worries insurgents are encroaching on the capital weeks ahead of elections.
    The latest violence is part of a protracted surge in nationwide bloodshed that has left more than 2,400 people dead since the start of the year and sparked fears Iraq is slipping back into the all-out sectarian conflict that plagued it in 2006-07.
    The unrest has been driven principally by anger in the Sunni Arab community over alleged mistreatment at the hands of the Shiite-led government and security forces, as well as spillover from the civil war in neighbouring Syria.
    In Tuesday's bloodiest incident, soldiers killed 25 militants in an ambush southwest of Baghdad, the capital's security spokesman Brigadier General Saad Maan said.
    Maan said the fighters were part of the jihadist Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), and that they were planning to attack an army base that they had attempted to hit last week.
    Despite the tactical success, the killings illustrate the growing ambition of ISIL militants in seeking to breach into Baghdad, with analysts and officials worrying that they are seeking to derail April 30 elections.
    Elsewhere in Iraq on Tuesday, attacks north of the capital killed 12 people, security and medical officials said, including six members of the same family shot inside their home on the outskirts of the restive city of Mosul.
    A car bomb set off by a suicide attacker at a checkpoint in the restive city of Tuz Khurmatu killed a policeman, while attacks also struck against Baiji and Tikrit in Salaheddin province.
    Diplomats and analysts have urged the government to reach out to the Sunni community to undermine support for militancy.
    But with the parliamentary elections looming, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and other Shiite leaders have been loath to be seen to compromise.
    Near-daily bloodshed is part of a long list of voter concerns that also include lengthy power cuts, poor wastewater treatment, rampant corruption
    and high unemployment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tankie View Post
    Here we go again , democracy given with countless billions of dollars etc and gallons of blood , there they go again , and if it was not for oil , what was the sacrifice for . People worldwide knew it was a futile exercise and the same goes for A/G ,,,,,at least Saddam Hussein had some control .Look at it now , and it will get worse IMO, RIP my comrades in arms , for what, your sacrifices were ?? well let people make their own minds up .




    Attacks in Iraq left 12 people dead Tuesday while security forces said they killed 25 militants near Baghdad amid worries insurgents are encroaching on the capital weeks ahead of elections.
    The latest violence is part of a protracted surge in nationwide bloodshed that has left more than 2,400 people dead since the start of the year and sparked fears Iraq is slipping back into the all-out sectarian conflict that plagued it in 2006-07.
    The unrest has been driven principally by anger in the Sunni Arab community over alleged mistreatment at the hands of the Shiite-led government and security forces, as well as spillover from the civil war in neighbouring Syria.
    In Tuesday's bloodiest incident, soldiers killed 25 militants in an ambush southwest of Baghdad, the capital's security spokesman Brigadier General Saad Maan said.
    Maan said the fighters were part of the jihadist Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), and that they were planning to attack an army base that they had attempted to hit last week.
    Despite the tactical success, the killings illustrate the growing ambition of ISIL militants in seeking to breach into Baghdad, with analysts and officials worrying that they are seeking to derail April 30 elections.
    Elsewhere in Iraq on Tuesday, attacks north of the capital killed 12 people, security and medical officials said, including six members of the same family shot inside their home on the outskirts of the restive city of Mosul.
    A car bomb set off by a suicide attacker at a checkpoint in the restive city of Tuz Khurmatu killed a policeman, while attacks also struck against Baiji and Tikrit in Salaheddin province.
    Diplomats and analysts have urged the government to reach out to the Sunni community to undermine support for militancy.
    But with the parliamentary elections looming, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and other Shiite leaders have been loath to be seen to compromise.
    Near-daily bloodshed is part of a long list of voter concerns that also include lengthy power cuts, poor wastewater treatment, rampant corruption
    and high unemployment.
    Yet, i have read the kurds have been successful in establishing a relatively peaceful society in the north, at the very least, something can be taken from that.

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    And I find it surprising that this is not front page news as compared to Crimea and Ukraine or MH370.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blademaster View Post
    And I find it surprising that this is not front page news as compared to Crimea and Ukraine or MH370.
    Hitesh ,,,,,shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh , bury it , something else is going on ,newer news
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    Well Al Jazeera reports every attack and runs commentary.
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    Al jaz aint normally watched in the UK Iian , as far as im aware , now coronation st and eastenders , yayyyy


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    Mosul for a night out anyone ,


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    Quote Originally Posted by tankie View Post
    Mosul for a night out anyone ,
    Drinks are on me buddy
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    Agree with you 100%, tankie; it's hard to watch what's happening over there (NPR is one of the few outlets over here that's even talking about it) and not think that 12 years of conflict and, as you said, "countless billions of dollars etc and gallons of blood" were wasted. I'm all for worldwide freedom and democracy, but not at the cost of thousands of our good servicemen, and billions (trillions?)of dollars of our money.
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    And now Tikrit , next stop Baghdad , B,LIAR BUSH are you 2 fkin lying moronic POS happy now , why could they not see exactly what millions of us mere mortals could see , without being rocket scientists it wasnt hard to work out , Pull out fully from A/G , in walk the ones waiting in the wings .

    Now what's the scenario oh great leaders

    World poverty could have been eradicated for the price its cost the west to give democracy . Sooooo , we have discussed the reasons for this debacle , it wasnt oil as people thought and S2 pointed out , of which the oil thing i agreed somewhat , so WTF was/is it for ,


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    Tankie, a lot of us are asking the same questions....
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    Well Obama has dismissed boots on the ground , GOOD , so we just sit back and watch Iraq disintegrate , a bit like Syria , seems like human rights has been kicked in the arse when it comes up against money .I for one dont give a flying f##k about Iraq we should never have gone there in the 1st place , what good has it done , sweet FA thats what , I hope B,LIAR gets strung up with Bush and all the bastards who supported them , S/Hussein had the shithole under control , answer ,, hang him , now look . Some of my friends died there , as did others on this board , now why do I hate politicians ?? the majority of which have never done a days work in their lives , especially the Brit ones , gas the fkin lot of em , wankers , except Farage . Rant over .


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    I wrote to soon , Obama sends carrier , B,liar is advocating military intervention when its got sweet f/a to do with him , apart from the fact he helped start it , camoron has ruled out any intervention , YET , but will kow tow when obumma tells him to .


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    Countries in Middle East are not good for Democracy.

    Iraq was much much peaceful in the times of Saddam.

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    Isn't it about time we abandon the concept of "Iraq" and "Syria"?
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