BJP puts 'no first use' nuclear policy in doubt

[lemontree]

No one can be as incompetent or corrupt as the Congress.

You are being partial towards the BJP, Shiv Sena, BSP, SP,...(shall I go on) when you say that.

Please vote for Modi. Don't dilute the mandate he needs to do something for us.

I would have loved to do that - give one party the complete mandate.
I was very happy to see them come to power in 1996...but then their saffron gangs were let loose on both muslims and christians. In every state that they came to power they unleashed the Bajrang Dal.
This is what makes me dislike the BJP.

[lemontree]

Oh ye of little faith....

O ye of blind faith....

[commander]

You are being partial towards the BJP, Shiv Sena, BSP, SP,...(shall I go on) when you say that.

I would have loved to do that - give one party the complete mandate.
I was very happy to see them come to power in 1996...but then their saffron gangs were let loose on both muslims and christians. In every state that they came to power they unleashed the Bajrang Dal.
This is what makes me dislike the BJP.

Sir, that Might have been the case with the older BJP leadership, but I highly doubt Modi would allow any of that to repeat again. Also I am voting for Modi not for BJP.

[sated buddha]

Also I am voting for Modi not for BJP.

Excellent point commander. Me too.

[sated buddha]

I would have loved to do that - give one party the complete mandate.
I was very happy to see them come to power in 1996...but then their saffron gangs were let loose on both muslims and christians. In every state that they came to power they unleashed the Bajrang Dal.
This is what makes me dislike the BJP.

LT doesn't your skin crawl the way the Congress is brazenly wooing the Imam and the Bishop in Muslim and Christian heavy states. Is this the "secularism" you want for our land and our kids for tomorrow?

Sorry for the strong words, but I find the Congress disgusting.

[Doktor]

Just to derail this thread a bit...

BJP sounds a hell of a bad name for a political party in my opinion. Could be my dirty mind or something, but having a (what i read) BJ Party raises a question, are they givers, takers or both?

Back to your regular programming, while i try to find a place to hide.

[sated buddha]

Just to derail this thread a bit...

BJP sounds a hell of a bad name for a political party in my opinion. Could be my dirty mind or something, but having a (what i read) BJ Party raises a question, are they givers, takers or both?

Back to your regular programming, while i try to find a place to hide.

After 10 years of a Prime Minister whose been blowing (something) non stop, most of us are too jaded to reply.

Not me though. My mind is always in the gutter.

[sated buddha]

P.S. Mods could merge this thread and the one for Indian Parliamentary Elections.

This time around the Indian Parliamentary Elections and the BJP are one and the same thing.

[Officer of Engineers]

Just to clarify my stand on post # 2 - hitting an enemy first (with cruise missiles) before they hit us with nukes is my idea of controlled aggression.

You don't have the missile numbers. The Chinese might, 2000 conventionally armed missiles at last count, but they're aiming at Taiwan and possibly North Korea.

[Oracle]

You don't have the missile numbers. The Chinese might, 2000 conventionally armed missiles at last count, but they're aiming at Taiwan and possibly North Korea.

Sir, are you saying it can be done if the numbers support? What about intel, satellite imagery, HUMINT etc?

Prithvi I was inducted in 1994, Brahmos was inducted in 2006 (Land attack variant) - if they still are short of numbers, what in heaven's sake are the establishment doing?

[Officer of Engineers]

Do the math. The Chinese had used 5 missiles to replace 1 single nuke. They may have reduced that down to 3. At a minimum, if you need 3 nukes to take out a target, now, you need 9 missiles.

[sated buddha]

Do the math. The Chinese had used 5 missiles to replace 1 single nuke. They may have reduced that down to 3. At a minimum, if you need 3 nukes to take out a target, now, you need 9 missiles.

So its a money thing or a lead time thing (with us as usual being late to the party)?

[Officer of Engineers]

It is always a money thing. Again, do the math, 2000 missiles. How much is that going to cost? Not just the missiles but also raising the regiments and training them to standard. The Chinese took 30 years to build up this number with one single purpose in mind, Taiwan.

[commander]

LT doesn't your skin crawl the way the Congress is brazenly wooing the Imam and the Bishop in Muslim and Christian heavy states. Is this the "secularism" you want for our land and our kids for tomorrow?

Sorry for the strong words, but I find the Congress disgusting.

I have been having same thought as well. Too many things are done in the name of secularism. If BJP tries to woo all Hindu voters with similar strategy then every media in India would be crying foul. However when it comes to CONgress or anything Muslim related the media keeps mum. Cheap politics :slap:

[antimony]

To be fair Congress are also equally if not more inept.
From my own reading and other previous nuke related threads here, it is just like OOE put it.
For a small nuke power NFU is the only game in town.

They do not claim to be the macho men in the room, BJP does, with all their jingoistic pseudo patriotic fervour. And if anyone is counting, the last engagement (1971) where we gave the other side a real whopping was under Congress. Hell, the last time we made them look like fools (1984) was also under Congress.

Kargil does not count as a whopping, it counts as a shameful back to wall face saving event. The Army fought bravely and our courageous men lost blood, but our macho emn politicos did not have the balls to take the fight to the enemy.