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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Is this the usual modus operandi for catching terrorists? Alerting the public and waiting for tips?
    Boston comes to mind. To borrow a military phrase, they believe she may already be 'inside the wire'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Is this the usual modus operandi for catching terrorists? Alerting the public and waiting for tips?
    It's another method of eyes and ears to the ground. Having the public alert to possible threats is no bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave lukins View Post
    It's another method of eyes and ears to the ground. Having the public alert to possible threats is no bad thing.
    Spreading panic vs eyes and ears? I believe there are more FSB, OMON, you name it agents on the ground then citizens.
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    According to unconfirmed sources, Ibragimova is already within the wire and was last seen on Sovetskaya Street in downtown Sochi.

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    With any luck Russia has an ample supply of explosive sniffing dogs. If they detect it, no reason in stopping them, let em go tear into them..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minskaya View Post
    Turkey has granted permission for two waiting US warships to enter the Black Sea. They will remain off the coast of Sochi for the duration of the XXII Olympic Winter Games. The warships are equipped with helicopters should it become necessary to evacuate American athletes or citizens in an emergency.
    Ideally, one or both of those ships would be an LHD/LHA class. Surely if the Russians can sail Kuznetsov and Kiev class carriers through the Bosphorus, then the US should be able to send a couple of helicopter carriers in for contingency rescue operations.

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    The USAF also has C-17 transport craft in Germany (two hour flight) reserved for this purpose. Whether such assets would be granted permission to land on Russian territory is an unknown at this point.
    That's the question mark: Will Russia go full-on Kursk head-up-their-ass and insist for days that there's no problem while people die by the dozen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter View Post
    Ideally, one or both of those ships would be an LHD/LHA class. Surely if the Russians can sail Kuznetsov and Kiev class carriers through the Bosphorus, then the US should be able to send a couple of helicopter carriers in for contingency rescue operations.
    [conspiracy hat]How convenient, just when the riots in Ukraine took the first tolls. [/conspiracy hat]

    That's the question mark: Will Russia go full-on Kursk head-up-their-ass and insist for days that there's no problem while people die by the dozen?
    If something bad happens in Sochi may God help those who are in, Russians are well known for their surgical, promptly responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    [conspiracy hat]How convenient, just when the riots in Ukraine took the first tolls. [/conspiracy hat]
    Exactly


    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    If something bad happens in Sochi may God help those who are in, Russians are well known for their surgical, promptly responses.
    God will not need to help them, the Russian security forces are world-renown for those surgical and prompt responses, as you said.
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    Russian forces are way above what they used to be.It's not that they lost their qualities,it's that they added Western stuff wrt TTP's.
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    Terrorism is a global threat, there is no absolute protection against that. Any global meeting, global public event becomes natural target for terrorists. But that doesn't mean we should give up living normal life. And arrogance is not good here, everyone is in danger in the modern World, and noone knows where the terrorists can hit next time and who will suffer then. As for the Sochi Olympics, I’m as much sure that’ll be okey, as it can be.

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    Sorry, cant shake the feeling that if we give Russia anti-IED tech, then within the year counters to that tech will be in insurgent hands killing more Americans. Putin v Jihadis... I feel like rooting for and against both sides at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    Sorry, cant shake the feeling that if we give Russia anti-IED tech, then within the year counters to that tech will be in insurgent hands killing more Americans. Putin v Jihadis... I feel like rooting for and against both sides at the same time.

    You seem very confused. Let me simplify your life.Russia is fighting the Jihadis for the simple reason they're a possible mortal threat to her.Russians share our most important values and characteristics with the West,them being European and Christian the most important.In this matter,everything else is of secondary importance at best.

    Everybody can disagree or confront Russia on plenty other issues.And everybody does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihais View Post
    You seem very confused. Let me simplify your life.Russia is fighting the Jihadis for the simple reason they're a possible mortal threat to her.Russians share our most important values and characteristics with the West,them being European and Christian the most important.In this matter,everything else is of secondary importance at best.

    Everybody can disagree or confront Russia on plenty other issues.And everybody does.
    All of the same holds good for China as well. Common enemies make for strange partners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sated buddha View Post
    All of the same holds good for China as well. Common enemies make for strange partners.
    Since when is China European and Christian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Since when is China European and Christian?
    China is increasingly Christian. But that's not the point.

    One does not need to be a Christian (or the West) to be targeted by and have a massive problem with Jihadis.

    Look at us.
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