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  • #16
    from one of my favorite authors.

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    GLADLY WOLDE HE LERNE, Harry Turtledove

    What could be more important for any society than making its next generation better and smarter people than the current one? Yet to whom do we entrust so much of the task of raising our children? All too often, to day-care workers who can’t find work much above the minimum wage and to teachers who majored in education because it was easy. We get what we pay for, though, here as anywhere else. The probability of “Gladly Wolde He Lerne” reflecting reality is effectively zero. Too bad.

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    Only the cold, green-blue glow of mercury vapor lamps lit the campus lot when Ted Collins pulled in. He had to park a long way from the lecture hall. He hauled his attach? case off the front passenger seat and locked the car. Then, already weary from a full day’s work, he trudged over the asphalt toward the hall.

    It was more than half full when he came in. Even so, it was quiet; the rest of the educators there were as worn as he was. Some of the superintendents, administrators, program specialists, and supervisors looked fresh out of college. Others, like him, were a few years older, already experienced in managing school district affairs.

    Whatever their backgrounds-Collins himself was an assistant superintendent for education planning and research-they all had one thing in common. They were all ambitious enough to go to night school to learn what they needed to know to advance in the educational bureaucracy.

    Professor Vance walked in. She strode briskly to the podium and tapped at the microphone to make sure it worked. Collins took out his notebook and a pen. He’d heard from people who had been through this course that Vance didn’t believe in wasting time.

    She didn’t. As soon as she found the mike was live, she plunged straight into her lecture: “Anyone can be a success at the district level. Policies are blurred there, responsibilities vague; very often you never see the actual clients who depend on you for educational services. If you hope to go farther in education, you’ll have to lose that pervasive vagueness. You got by with it at the university, you can get by with it at district offices, but it’s a fatal handicap in an actual school setting. Here’s what I mean…”

    By the time that first lecture was done, Collins wondered what had possessed him to want to become a principal in the first place. He thought about dropping the class and staying comfortably in his present job. He shook his head. When he started something, he wasn’t the sort to back away from it.

    He ended up acing Vance’s course. He took the others he needed, one or two a semester, always at night, as he could fit them into the rest of his life. He went through an internship program at an actual junior high school campus. He took the state-required examination for certification. Before long, he got an interview. The committee let him hang for two weeks before they let him know he’d been accepted. Kranz Elementary School had itself a new principal.

    When Collins got the news, he threw the biggest party he’d ever given-and ended up with the biggest hangover he’d ever had. The hangover eventually went away. As for the size of the party-well, what the hell? With the raise he’d get from his promotion, he could afford it and then some.

    He started his new job in the fall. It was as challenging as he’d hoped it would be. Budgeting for a single school was a much more complicated-and, as Professor Vance had warned so long ago, a much more precise-business than planning for district-wide programs, where you could always shuffle money between dozens of different accounts.

    Human relations counted for more at the school-site level, too. Little by little, he learned how to build rapport with the faculty. As principal, he also came into contact with pupils, something he’d never done back in the district office. Dealing with them made the problem of handling a staff look simple. But again, he learned.

    He got on with the rest of his life, too. He married a curriculum specialist from the district office where he’d worked before. He took up golf. After a while, he was shooting in the mid eighties. He grew a mustache. After a while, it turned salt-and-pepper.

    Satisfying as his principal’s assignment had been, he slowly decided it didn’t give him everything he needed. He hated the idea of being in a rut for the rest of his life. He talked things over with his wife. “Go for it,” she said. “I know it’ll be tough. Even if you don’t make it-and so many people don’t-you’ll be better for the experience. But I think you will. I think you can do it.”

    “You’re wonderful,” he said, and kissed her. The very next day, he enrolled in night school again.

    The moment he walked into his first class, he saw most of his fellow students were folks a lot like him: solid men and women who’d already built up solid careers but wanted something more. Oh, there were a couple of people in their early thirties, but only a couple. He knew they were the ones he’d have to watch out for, the whiz kids, the ones on the fast track to the top. He was no whiz kid. He was a grinder. That had always worked till now. He had to hope it would keep on working.

    “Congratulations,” Dr. de la Vega said as he walked to the front of the classroom and sat down on the table by the podium. “Congratulations just for being here, and for wanting to be the best.” His mild smile turned savage. “Now we’ll see how many of you I can run out of the program over the next twenty weeks.”

    He meant it, too. Nothing was watered down here, nothing simplified to let the slower people keep up. If you couldn’t keep up, too bad. Grimly, Collins buckled down to do the work. He ended up with a high B in the course, and felt prouder of it than of most A’s he’d earned.

    Every course in the whole program turned out to be like that. Collins learned to live on coffee and four hours of sleep a night. At a physical, his doctor warned him all that coffee could bring on an ulcer. He kept drinking it. Without it, he would have had to quit, and he’d come too far to do that.

    As time went on, he became ever more conscious of the responsibility that came with jobs at the top of the hierarchy. He had to look hard at himself to find out whether he truly wanted it. Without false modesty, he decided he did.

    Before he was even allowed to take the exams at the end of the program, he had to convince an interview board he was worthy. The exams themselves made the ones he’d taken to qualify for principal look like a pop quiz. When he learned he’d passed, everybody at his school gave him a party. He got his picture in the local paper, along with half a dozen other tired-looking people.

    More interviews-now he could pick and choose, because there were always more jobs than people qualified to fill them.

    He finally settled on one not far from where he lived, in a top-notch school. “We’re delighted to have you,” the principal there said, shaking his hand.

    Once his exams were over, Collins had cut way back on his caffeine intake. Even so, he hardly slept the night before his first day on the new job. “Am I really good enough?” he asked his wife as he picked at breakfast that morning.

    “You bet you are,” she said. “Now, go get ‘em.”

    For all her encouragement, he needed a deep breath to still the fear inside him as he walked up to the enameled door with the tarnished brass 7 on it. He opened the door. He went inside.

    “Good morning, class,” he said, forcing his voice to steadiness.

    “Good morning, teacher,” the children chorused.

    Teacher. He felt ready to burst with pride. After so long, after so much hard work, at last he’d reached the pinnacle of his profession.
    There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JAD_333 View Post
      You make some good points. I don't agree entirely. You are right that he learned teamwork, following rules and so on. No question those lessons have value in themselves. But he also learned a lesson I believe is less valuable, and that is you don't have to win to be rewarded. It's not like he was going to be raked over the coals for losing. No one was going to yell at him like the proverbial soccer mom. It's more like using his loss to motivate him to improve his skills so he could do better next time.
      As kids mature the well grounded ones will put their losses to good use. If the kids are not having fun they won't want to continue activities such as soccer. Remember when your son was about a year old and took to the toilet the first time? Did you berate him as a failure because he missed or reward him generously because he took an important step that meant your diaper duties were just about over, and you wanted to encourage him to continue. A win depends on where you put the goals.
      Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tamara View Post
        And when you got that email, did you tell them to ask the student?

        That's the way it is around here, FEDERALLY. It doesn't matter if the parent is paying the way; what is going on with the student is discussed only with the student.

        "Fortunately", I teach a technical skill where if people, adults, don't learn it right, they could die. So my say on "go or no go" is law. Of course, there are always at least two things to it. First of all, go or no go is not tied in with what goes down in the grade book. Secondly, I can be over ridden..................if they can find another instructor willing to take the risk.
        That's exactly what I said. I told them if the student was willing for me to release their information to the 3rd party I would, AFTER said student signed a release, otherwise I cannot release any information in regards to this student.

        Class starts back up tomorrow and I'm making a few revisions to the syllabus that they were operating under before I came in. I teach military science/ basic officer leadership which can be hard to quantify through a "rubric". I've got a few ideas in mind and I guess we'll just have to see how it all works out.
        Last edited by Brinktk; 07 Jan 14,, 18:11.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by troung View Post
          Arrogant bitch needed to go find a new job long before she wrote this crap. Did she count this whiny email as partof her 40 unpaid hours of work? Sadly she will probably collect a pension from those "deranged customers." A waste of space and the world is better off without her.
          Oh I am sorry, are you the kid who got that F which had to be changed into a C?

          What the fuck matters more - the efforts of the teacher (she was at least doing her job and teaching) or the expectations of the parents that their kids need to be rewarded.

          I don't agree with her that students cannot be measured, but the expectations that kids today need to be handled like a a delicate free range egg with bland non threatning grades is disgusting.
          "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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          • #20
            Originally posted by JAD_333 View Post
            Deja vu all over again, as Yogi would say. The best teacher I ever had was in high school English, a Franciscan monk. He made sure everyone in the class learned everything he had to teach. He quizzed us over and over until he was satisfied we got it. He never raised his voice, and no one ever misbehaved. He had way about him that made you want to please him. Anyway, I'm glad to see someone else shared my experience and didn't turn out to be a psychopath.:)
            Our guy also taught English and was Jesuit. He was also very good at what he did and respected greatly among the students. He simply had a line you didn't cross while in class, and those who didn't understand that learned it the harder way just once, after which his reputation was all that was needed.

            Sadly those days from the 50's and 60's are long gone even in a Catholic school. Luckily I missed my mother's days in Catholic schools during the 40's. Rulers are for measurements.

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            • #21
              Oh I am sorry, are you the kid who got that F which had to be changed into a C?
              Bane style back breaking occurred when my mother's favorite son was criticized.

              I don't agree with her that students cannot be measured, but the expectations that kids today need to be handled like a a delicate free range egg with bland non threatning grades is disgusting.
              She doesn't want to be measured. She has no problems giving out bad grades but doesn't want to be called out for them or receive performance evaluations either.

              What the fuck matters more - the efforts of the teacher (she was at least doing her job and teaching) or the expectations of the parents that their kids need to be rewarded.
              Someone that writes a 25 paragraph bitch fest about why they are quitting their job probably has a screw loose, we have only her word to say that she was some great beloved teacher who was attacked by the parents of the pebbles and the administration. She is angry that parents took an active role and called her to task on her job and that she was to be held to account for her student's performance. It jumps from complaining about uninvolved parents to some rambling crap about hardware stores and cake baking when parents do show up and call her to task. She wants to have power over people without any oversight.

              The article is a whiny pity party which seeks to blame everyone else for her not liking her job when she had to deal with performance metrics and oversight. It was cartoonishly one-sided bitching aimed to hit all the right keys - lazy young people, bureaucracy and overbearing parents to cover up the fact some arrogant bitch got called out by the parents of the diamonds and the administration. All we have is her self serving word that she didn't suck and wasn't herself part of the problem.

              "Back in my days we got beaten three times a day by President Taft and liked it."

              The comment section on the actual article is a teachers union circle jerk.

              Shame the leech is no doubt on a pension sucking away the futures of the pebbles and diamonds she has so much dislike for.
              Last edited by troung; 07 Jan 14,, 20:55.
              To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

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              • #22
                Originally posted by troung View Post
                - lazy young people, bureaucracy and overbearing parents
                I know this community as in I really do know this community several of them in fact.

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                • #23
                  I know this community as in I really do know this community several of them in fact.
                  I am going back to the land of "one why question a day" in a few months .

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                  Comments section on the article - the target audience.

                  I read this column with awe because I could totally identify with it only I doubt I could have expressed my thoughts as well. After a long and successful corporate career I got certified to teach in a local Maryland county because I believed I could "make a difference." I taught for 5 years and do believe I made a difference for quite a few students but I encountered every obstacle noted by the Frederick teacher in her email. Even today I tell friends that I encountered two types of parents, those who wanted to know why their darling wasn't getting an "A" because he/she had always gotten A's in other classes, and those who simply wanted to make sure that their child would pass so he/she could graduate and get out of the house. As for "central office administrators" all I can say is that they truly are examples of the old "if you can't do something then teach it" because the next line of that old saw should be "if you can't teach it, tell other people how to teach it." Another thing that's sad about the system is that people who move up the management chain aren't motivated by being better teachers; management is simply the only mechanism for getting a promotion and earning more money.
                  The Department of Education with its top down standards established by administrators who have little to no training or experience in the field impedes the learning process by setting a one-size-fits-all curriculum. This reduces teachers from educator to presenter.

                  These administrators justify their existence and prove their value by developing metrics that have little to do with educating or challenging students, or promoting student creativity. Students conform to the metrics. Educators are confined by them. US students’ performance has continually dropped vs. the rest of the world since the DoE was created.

                  Imagine how much money would be available to schools if this wasteful spending were eliminated! Funds would be available for art, music, lower student:teacher ratios, books, and facilities.

                  She is wrong on one point. She states that the rules are such that students are not allowed to fail and this does not prepare them for life in the real world. But we live in a society that promotes that everyone, including capable people who choose to put forth little or no effort, should still get a passing grade (in the form of government subsidies that provide funds for food, clothing, shelter and other necessities like flat screen TVs and cell phones). This is called “fairness”. People even convince themselves that those who were unwilling (Note: I am not referring to those who are unable) to provide for themselves will manage to become productive members of society if we just continue to give them a hand up. In fact, this has created a continually dependent class. America’s poor have a higher standard of living than members of the middle class in over half the world.
                  Your article is 100% true and honest. I was a high school mathematics teacher for seven years. I taught in South Carolina and Maryland and you hit the nail right on the head. If there is anyone who disagrees then they have never set foot in the battlefield of the public school classroom. I am glad that the struggle is now put in print. I would never go back to teaching high school because of all the reasons that the article stated. It gives you a sick feeling in your stomach when you have to lower your standards and you are doing everything possible to help and the students do not have to anything and its your fault. It is a joke and travesty. Thanks for the time that you took to write this article. Have a great year.
                  Here's one idea that will pry never fly.... Let's pass a law that no one can pass laws affecting education until he or she has completed ten consecutive, successful years as a public school teacher. Then we could stick to what works instead of coming up with (not) new education policies every five years. I'm a veteran teacher whose non-teaching duties have increased 2,000 percent in the last two years. I did the math on all the new requirements, distractions and interruptions, and I determined that I now have an average of 45 seconds of one-on-one time per student.
                  Agreed 100%. Holding teachers responsible for the performance and motivation of their students is a sure road to failure, one that we're already far along.

                  Similarly, holding schools accountable for their students' performance on standardized tests only promotes rote memorization at best, and cheating and fraud at worst. It further drives the polarization between "good" and "bad" schools and takes money away from schools that need it the most and gives it to those that need it the least.
                  Last edited by troung; 07 Jan 14,, 21:20.
                  To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

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                  • #24
                    I suppose people being able to identify with this teachers protests is certainly indicative of a conspiracy of victimization and martyrdom en masse by the people who actually do this for a job. Perhaps the point of the email was not necessarily to bitch and moan, it was to point out what problems are being created within public education by a top down, over bureaucratized approach. Sure, there was some bitching and soapboxing, but there was also content that begs exploration. How would you rectify this problem if made King/Queen for a day?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by troung View Post
                      Bane style back breaking occurred when my mother's favorite son was criticized.
                      So, not you then

                      Originally posted by troung View Post
                      She doesn't want to be measured. She has no problems giving out bad grades but doesn't want to be called out for them or receive performance evaluations either.
                      She is doing her job, teaching. About her performance evaluations - if she is measured on how many students she has to forcibly pass, yes, then I am on her side.

                      Originally posted by troung View Post
                      Someone that writes a 25 paragraph bitch fest about why they are quitting their job probably has a screw loose, we have only her word to say that she was some great beloved teacher who was attacked by the parents of the pebbles and the administration. She is angry that parents took an active role and called her to task on her job and that she was to be held to account for her student's performance. It jumps from complaining about uninvolved parents to some rambling crap about hardware stores and cake baking when parents do show up and call her to task. She wants to have power over people without any oversight.

                      The article is a whiny pity party which seeks to blame everyone else for her not liking her job when she had to deal with performance metrics and oversight. It was cartoonishly one-sided bitching aimed to hit all the right keys - lazy young people, bureaucracy and overbearing parents to cover up the fact some arrogant bitch got called out by the parents of the diamonds and the administration. All we have is her self serving word that she didn't suck and wasn't herself part of the problem.

                      "Back in my days we got beaten three times a day by President Taft and liked it."

                      The comment section on the actual article is a teachers union circle jerk.

                      Shame the leech is no doubt on a pension sucking away the futures of the pebbles and diamonds she has so much dislike for.
                      From what I have seen in schools here, she is right. The "pebbles" and "diamonds" in Us schools could do with some serious academic asskicking. They also need some serious fear in their lives, that slacking during school is going to ruin their lives and careers.
                      "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                      • #26
                        She is doing her job, teaching. About her performance evaluations - if she is measured on how many students she has to forcibly pass, yes, then I am on her side.
                        She was complaining about more then just having to hand out Gentleman Cs to the pebbles.

                        From what I have seen in schools here, she is right. The "pebbles" and "diamonds" in Us schools could do with some serious academic asskicking. They also need some serious fear in their lives, that slacking during school is going to ruin their lives and careers.
                        Ineffective teachers need to be purged as well. It doesn't sound, even in her biased and self serving account, like the author thrived under scrutiny.

                        Pretty shitty writer as well.
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                        Article was aimed to an audience who fell themselves victims because of their chosen profession.
                        I find it disturbing that you consider teachers "whiners" when what we are doing is trying to speak up and voice our concerns with this broken system......not for ourselves, but for our students. Excuse us for trying to advocate for change, to defend a student's right to learn from their failures, to make learning more important than standardized tests, and to be able to personalize a student's education to benefit them individually. You, are part of the problem. But, I have a 65 hour work week to prepare for, so I better quit "whining" and get down to it!
                        As a teacher, I recognize everything Ms. Strauss says in her essay. I imagine that she has been a top tier teacher. The educational system is sick in this country. Those in control of policy have reduced it to "quantifiable" vacuity. As a history teacher, I am appalled at what I am required to teach and of my inability to exercise my judgment as to what should be included to make the learning meaningful. Similarly, I am disheartened that we facilitate trifling attitudes in indolent students: they don't need to sweat it, the teacher does. There's more, and Ms. Strauss hits on much of it. I fear things will get worse before they get better. I'll add that this seems to go deeper than party politics. But money may be at the root of the evil. The forces that seem to be pushing these policies are either making money on them, or are fearful that their incomes will be cut off when it's discovered that they are sophists pushing snake oil (e.g., educational specialists with doctorates in pedagogy employed in central offices who left the classroom long ago).
                        Last edited by troung; 07 Jan 14,, 23:13.
                        To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Brinktk View Post
                          How would you rectify this problem if made King/Queen for a day?
                          Your case is easy. You're training officers. They have to EARN the right to lead men.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                            Your case is easy. You're training officers. They have to EARN the right to lead men.
                            Trust me, they're going to earn every bit of it.

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                            • #29
                              I have absolutely no doubt.
                              Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 08 Jan 14,, 06:02.

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                              • #30
                                Teachers are not happy for being crappy is new, eh?

                                No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                                To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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