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  • #16
    Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    And if it was an Iranian nuke?
    Sir, irrespective, the nuke can be from Mars for all we care.
    The retaliation would be immediate and Pakistan would cease to exist within the hour.

    Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
      And if it was an Iranian nuke?
      That is highly unlikely as a British nuke landing on an American city on purpose.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
        How long would it take Indian nuclear forensics to determine the nuke is of Pakistani ... or of Chinese origins?
        We are assuming that India has the ability to do that. Besides, the Pakistanis have refined "plausible deniability" into an art form. So far, it has worked, in the sense that none of their actions have invited retaliation. A nuke is pushing it of course.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by commander View Post
          Holy cow .. Can this actually happen ?

          Indian Mujahideen wanted to nuke Surat, Yasin Bhatkal tells cops - The Times of India

          How possible is this situation.
          The word you're looking for is probable. Not possible. Anything may be possible. To say something is possible means nothing.

          As to how probable, low, extremely so. How would they source it.

          The only time a Pak nuke goes lose is if the paks themselves lose control and this will only happen during an all out war. If you accept that prospect is equally low then where does this so called nuke originate from. No where. There's been a lot of scare mongering articles about how Pak nukes could go lose. During the cold war it was about accidental launch.

          This article is IM bravado. He's trying to show IM matters. But IM is a ragtag group without any significant victories to their name. Death counts in the low tens. The so called serial blasts in Bangalore 2008 was a joke in comparison to much more lethal ones that happened elsewhere in the country. We hope they stay that way.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
            The word you're looking for is probable. Not possible. Anything may be possible. To say something is possible means nothing.

            As to how probable, low, extremely so. How would they source it.

            The only time a Pak nuke goes lose is if the paks themselves lose control and this will only happen during an all out war. If you accept that prospect is equally low then where does this so called nuke originate from. No where. There's been a lot of scare mongering articles about how Pak nukes could go lose. During the cold war it was about accidental launch.

            This article is IM bravado. He's trying to show IM matters. But IM is a ragtag group without any significant victories to their name. Death counts in the low tens. The so called serial blasts in Bangalore 2008 was a joke in comparison to much more lethal ones that happened elsewhere in the country. We hope they stay that way.
            Although I agree that IM may not as deadly as other terror outfits it is kind of scary to see if IM could plan even in paper such attack how long will it take for bigger terror outfits like LeT and the likes to conduct such an attack? Also we have witnessed the PNS Mehran attack in 2011 where TTP were able to hold the Naval base for sometime eventually killing 18 soldiers.

            PNS Mehran attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

            Although it is highly unlikely since Pakistan know if an event like that to happen then it would be an all out war against them.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
              That is highly unlikely as a British nuke landing on an American city on purpose.
              Iran is the only country where their nuclear materials are not up to par with securtiy. It's a hell of a lot easier to steal an Iranian nuke than a Pakistani one.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                Iran is the only country where their nuclear materials are not up to par with securtiy. It's a hell of a lot easier to steal an Iranian nuke than a Pakistani one.
                The Iranians have fissile material but no actual nukes. If that story by Yasin Bhatkal is not complete fantasy (which it probably is), then there can be only one country where the IM would have been looking to get a nuke.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                  Iran is the only country where their nuclear materials are not up to par with securtiy. It's a hell of a lot easier to steal an Iranian nuke than a Pakistani one.
                  Sir, if I am not wrong the recent fiasco that happened because of Stuxnet worm has setback Iranian nuclear program to more than two decades if not more.

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                  • #24
                    I'm convinced that they have put a device together. They have gone through all the testing, including a zero yield device. To do that, they had have fashion a working nuke just to make sure all the parts are right.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by lemontree View Post
                      Sir, irrespective, the nuke can be from Mars for all we care.
                      The retaliation would be immediate and Pakistan would cease to exist within the hour.
                      And you wonder why Pakistanis hate India.

                      No, no need to lecture me on what they did to you. Been through that dozens of times on WAB.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by cdude View Post
                        And you wonder why Pakistanis hate India.

                        No, no need to lecture me on what they did to you. Been through that dozens of times on WAB.
                        They have the same policy towards India. And unlike India they don't follow NFU.
                        Last edited by Firestorm; 03 Jan 14,, 16:30.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by cdude View Post
                          And you wonder why Pakistanis hate India.

                          No, no need to lecture me on what they did to you. Been through that dozens of times on WAB.
                          Please dont try to preach us why some X country hates us , we know our enemies well and know how to play accordingly. Likewise if required we can also give a zillion reasons why a LOT of countries hate your's.

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                          • #28
                            Well, if this particular 'report' is accurate, the 'Indian Mujahideen' stood a better chance of securing nuclear materials/weapons from within India, instead of Pakistan:

                            India ranks below Pakistan in n-safety index - The Hindu

                            That said, there is plenty of room for disagreement over the metrics used to compile the scores and how those metrics were scored individually.
                            Last edited by Agnostic Muslim; 09 Jan 14,, 19:00.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by cdude View Post
                              And you wonder why Pakistanis hate India.

                              No, no need to lecture me on what they did to you. Been through that dozens of times on WAB.
                              And you wonder why we call you a troll. By the way, where are the pictures and videos of Tibetan roads that I ordered?
                              "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by commander View Post
                                Please dont try to preach us why some X country hates us , we know our enemies well and know how to play accordingly. Likewise if required we can also give a zillion reasons why a LOT of countries hate your's.
                                Only those who never been in some place and met the locals caan hate entire country or people.
                                No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                                To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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