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IDF Soldier Stabbed to Death in Terror Attack in Afula
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Originally posted by cataphract View PostNo, it's absolutely not. Israel is the Pakistan of the middle-east. A territory (not a nation) held together by religious exclusivism.
A young life is lost in unfortunate circumstances...tragic. That is the price the world pays for the intolerance of a few.Last edited by lemontree; 14 Nov 13,, 09:50.
Cheers!...on the rocks!!
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Originally posted by lemontree View PostNonesense, Israeli or Jewish nation existed in the ancient world. This ended after the Jewish-Roman wars and the Romans ruled and then the Muslims and later the British. Who the hell even heard of Pakistan before 1946?
A young life is lost in unfortunate circumstances...tragic. That is the price the world pays for the intolerance of a few.
I don't want to derail this thread further, the murder was obviously very tragic. I just don't like right-wing fundies in India looking to Israel for inspiration.
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Originally posted by bigross86 View PostThere is no official discrimination, and they can earn the same benefits by volunteering to serve in the IDF, or by performing national service, which they choose not to do.
And this was most definitely terror, the kid even said he murdered the soldier because his uncles were sitting in an Israeli jail. That is not family honor, that is nationalistic in nature, and that makes it terror.
His uncles are in prison.... That is not religion or nationalism its family/tribe. Not terror, murder. By your loose definitions is equally applies there are a shit ton of juvenile Jewish terrorists in the territories.
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Originally posted by zraver View PostIf they have to do something Jews get for free its discrimination
Very modern concept, something Ottoman did in the past with non-Muslims.No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
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Originally posted by Doktor View PostJews don't get those for free. They serve the IDF.
Very modern concept, something Ottoman did in the past with non-Muslims.
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Originally posted by bigross86 View PostI'll tell you very simply why: Because the world DOES care, only about the Palestinians. Look at the link I posted above, at major British news sources. Scant mention of a murdered Israeli soldier, or mention of the incident flanked by anti-Israeli rhetoric.
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Originally posted by cdude View PostWell, fuck the Brits as I always say. Come to NYC where anti-Arab/Islam ads are printed everywhere on the buses. NYC cares about Israel.Those who know don't speak
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36
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Originally posted by astralis View Post....either accept and work with the world, in full knowledge that Israel's eight million people gives her a limited voice; alternatively, close out the rest of the world...knowing that Israel only has eight million people as her bulwark.
playing things by halves won't work.
Ben,
Before you start accusing the world, why don't you reinstate the death penalty for your own selves? You yourselves find it difficult to make these necessary difficult decisions, why should you expect the international community to do better? As it has been pointed out already, the world is a far too messy a place to be doing all the shouting for you.
RIP to the young serviceman, im sure his parents must be proud of him, and so should the nation.Last edited by Zinja; 14 Nov 13,, 21:04.
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Originally posted by zraver View PostThe person a Jew decides to marry does not have to prove loyalty to Israel, Jews can immigrate to Israel, make use of the Jewish national trust, gets far more government revenue spent on them per capita, get IDF protection as they attack Palestinians and take their land and avoid prosecution for crimes including murder and if they are ultra orthodox do not have to serve in the IDF.
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