lemontree,major do you have any idea what is happening in keran sector? seems like government is hiding something.why has it taken 14 day to flush out the terrorists out of a small ghost village? and the op is still going on..
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The time-frame is not necessarily unusual given the IA's statements regarding the difficult terrain. As an example, the recent PA operation in Tirah valley in FATA took almost a month to complete.
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Originally posted by prash View Postlemontree,major do you have any idea what is happening in keran sector? seems like government is hiding something.why has it taken 14 day to flush out the terrorists out of a small ghost village? and the op is still going on..
12-15 of them have been killed during the first 4 days. Ops in there areas take time, there is no need to rush as no momentum has to be maintained.
Cheers!...on the rocks!!
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Originally posted by lemontree View Post... and assisted by Pak regular army troops.
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BBC News - Kashmir: Indian army makes 'large haul' of arms and ammunition
"A large haul of seven AK47 rifles and war ammunition has been recovered. The recovery made by the army makes the designs of militants amply clear," Col Sanjay Mitra told reporters.
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Originally posted by cdude View PostBBC News - Kashmir: Indian army makes 'large haul' of arms and ammunition
"A large haul of seven AK47 rifles and war ammunition has been recovered. The recovery made by the army makes the designs of militants amply clear," Col Sanjay Mitra told reporters.
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Media sources claim ak47 while the pics of captured gun shown are ak-74u
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Originally posted by prash View Postseems like government is hiding something.why has it taken 14 day to flush out the terrorists out of a small ghost village? and the op is still going on..
This bunch didn't get too far..
Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View PostThat is unsubstantiated speculation.
For example; here are the pics of the militants that attacked the army base in Jammu about a week back:
Open at your own discretion; may be a bit gruesome
http://i.imgur.com/gl1NFJS.jpg
Although there has been no direct evidence linking these militants with the PA in this case (or atleast none publicly shared as of yet), their kit is the intriguing part.. They carried out a commando style hit on an Indian army base, and they came fully kitted up for the task. So if these aren't PA supported units which are carrying out these ops, than I think that more than India, it is Pakistan which should be worrying..Attached FilesCow is the only animal that not only inhales oxygen, but also exhales it.
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Originally posted by farhan_9909 View PostThe picture i have seen in the other forums(posted by indian members) show ak-74U.
Media sources claim ak47 while the pics of captured gun shown are ak-74u
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Originally posted by Firestorm View PostLink/Post the pics. Many a times the journalists use older recycled images if they don't have a fresh one. There have been so many weapons seizures in Kashmir, that there are no dearth of pics lying around.
Both Ak-47s and 74Us have been recovered/captured.
Originally posted by farhan_9909 View PostThe picture i have seen in the other forums(posted by indian members) show ak-74U.
Media sources claim ak47 while the pics of captured gun shown are ak-74u
"He said the recoveries include seven AK 47 rifles, four pistols, one sniper rifle, 20 UBGL grenades, two radio-sets and other war-like stores.
Some medicines and food items were also recovered, he said.
Army had yesterday recovered six AK rifles, 10 pistols, five radio-sets and other items after the search operations in the sector, Col Mitra said."
Huge cache of arms recovered from J&K's Keran sector, Centre 'assessing' situation - The Times of India
So that would be 13 captured AKs (both Ak-47s and 74Us) over the last 2 days.Attached FilesLast edited by Tronic; 08 Oct 13,, 04:26.Cow is the only animal that not only inhales oxygen, but also exhales it.
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Originally posted by Firestorm View PostI was responding to Farhan. As for cdude, well I would expect nothing less.
Thanks for the pic. I knew I had seen it somewhere earlier today, but was unable to find it.
*But there is also a possibility that they might be showing these old pics of ak 74u(may be once captured) to put more weight to the blame on Pakistan
Compare with this
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Originally posted by farhan_9909 View PostIf this is to be believed and the above AK 74U indeed are captured.Than from the built i can say that yes they do look the one made in Pakistan and is having striking similarities to the one in my hand
*But there is also a possibility that they might be showing these old pics of ak 74u(may be once captured) to put more weight to the blame on Pakistan
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Originally posted by Firestorm View PostThats pretty much what an AKS-74U made anywhere looks like. What's special about it? Making all sorts of AK-series rifles is a flourishing cottage industry in some parts of Pakistan. We don't have to look at the pictures to conclude that the terrorists (who crossed over from PoK) may have bought their weapons there (or weapons bought there would have been provided to them by their handlers).
They are of extremely useless quality.I really doubt if PA really was to sent them,than atleast they would have given them a proper working rifle.Not these useless toys.
They are only good within 100m range,Made of extremely uselss raw material,Not even close to the real,the imported barrels are of extremely useless quality if they still Don't have the CNC's for manufacturing them.
While those made by POF are not for civilian(though i doubt POF makes ak-74u)
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BTW, Tronic, I had posted this: http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/cen...tml#post933675 a few days back for you and others who were excited about the talks. Don't know if you read it. Posting it here, since there is a new thread now...
Fat lot of good all the "peace talks" did.
Jammu & Kashmir's Keran sector witnessing Kargil rerun?
The Army is trying to downplay the incident. But the fact remains that there were about 30-40 infiltrators who actually occupied Indian territory instead of sneaking in to set off bombs as is the usual SOP. And they have been trading fire with the army for about 10 days now despite losing nearly half their force. Clearly, they are well supplied and well trained. IA spokespersons have made remarks about their excellent fire discipline etc., the sort you expect from a professional army.
The truth is that it is physically impossible to sanitize every inch of the border all the time. There will always be gaps, unit rotations, equipment inadequacies etc., that the PA. can exploit. Plus they have their time-tested tactic of conducting artillery barrages as covering fire for the infiltration teams. Tronic talks about being vigilant and "hitting back" without really delving into the difficulties that the IA faces. The IA will always be on the defensive whilst we continue to merely react to such incidents and fight solely on our side of the border. Unless we take the fight into their territory these incidents will continue to happen. And you can't do something like that if you are conducting "peace talks" and discussing CBMs. Not unless you are willing to shamelessly lie about your soldiers being involved and refuse to accept their dead bodies like the PA did during Kargil and continues to do now.
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