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  • #31
    Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
    The kind of 'discipline' being referred to has also cropped up in attacks on various military and police targets in Pakistan. The GHQ terrorist attack leader was in fact former Pakistani Army, so arguments of 'the attackers are a very disciplined force' mean nothing anymore in terms of trying to implicate a State or State institution.
    Was the GHQ attack accompanied by cover fire from artillery and mortars? That kind of gives the game away on the LOC. Besides, the troop density on the LOC is beyond anything found anywhere else inside Pakistan including the western border. It would be impossible to hide the training camps, staging areas and supply lines of these "infiltrators" from the PA. It is much easier for the men to hide themselves after crossing the border and they still get detected eventually. So spare me the BS.

    In any case that post wasn't meant for you. You are a spokesperson for the PA who will never accept their involvement in anything. You'd be still denying their involvement in Kargil if Mushy hadn't himself accepted it and I have no interest in trying to argue with you about it. No, this post was meant for Tronic and co. who accept that the PA is behind these attacks yet offer convoluted explanations for how talks are the only logical answer.
    Last edited by Firestorm; 04 Oct 13,, 16:06.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
      The kind of 'discipline' being referred to has also cropped up in attacks on various military and police targets in Pakistan. The GHQ terrorist attack leader was in fact former Pakistani Army, so arguments of 'the attackers are a very disciplined force' mean nothing anymore in terms of trying to implicate a State or State institution.
      Its futile convincing a known terrorist sympathizer like you . Pakistan is a proven centre of excellence for international terrorism. Its very clear to us Indians that Pak Army and Jihadi pigs coming across LOC are one and the same. What's happening at Keran sector , seems like jihadi pigs coming from POK are very eager to use 72 virgin dating service offered by indian army at LOC.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Firestorm View Post
        Was the GHQ attack accompanied by cover fire from artillery and mortars?
        I haven't come across any credible reports suggesting that the PA is providing artillery cover for this alleged group of militants.
        Besides, the troop density on the LOC is beyond anything found anywhere else inside Pakistan including the western border. It would be impossible to hide the training camps, staging areas and supply lines of these "infiltrators" from the PA. It is much easier for the men to hide themselves after crossing the border and they still get detected eventually. So spare me the BS.
        If this group of militants could cross over, undetected by the IA, to the Indian side of the LoC and 'take over' defensive positions allowing them to keep the IA at bay for several days, then it stands to reason that they could also get past the Pakistani Army undetected.
        In any case that post wasn't meant for you. You are a spokesperson for the PA who will never accept their involvement in anything. You'd be still denying their involvement in Kargil if Mushy hadn't himself accepted it and I have no interest in trying to argue with you about it. No, this post was meant for Tronic and co. who accept that the PA is behind these attacks yet offer convoluted explanations for how talks are the only logical answer.
        Doesn't matter who you addressed the post to - you made unfounded allegations against Pakistan and I chose to refute them.
        Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic state to be ruled by priests with a divine mission - Jinnah
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        • #34
          From the BBC, a report quoting the Indian Army Chief - please note the lack of any mention of 'artillery support from the PA':

          There is no "Kargil-like situation", Gen Bikram Singh told reporters on Friday.

          "It was an infiltration attempt by 30 to 40 militants at four to five places. They have been stopped, prevented, some of them have been neutralised. Operations are on to flush them out. It is a matter of time."

          Gen Singh added: "We are dominating them from all sides and the militants are holed up. It is a broken ground. It is difficult, treacherous terrain. They are stuck in that and we will take them on. It is a question of time. Such operations take time."

          BBC News - Kashmir: India army chief Bikram Singh says 'no Kargil-like situation'
          Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic state to be ruled by priests with a divine mission - Jinnah
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          • #35
            ‘Army’s secret Division would have prevented Samba-like encounters’

            The decision to finish off TSD was political and not military. It was done to show (former COAS) General V.K. Singh in a bad light," a senior officer commented, while another claimed that "the TSD enabled our boys to get prior information on the movements of terror groups, so that these were caught before sneaking into India". He claimed that "despite the effort by the ISI to create a Kashmir Intifada by motivating youngsters to pelt stones at security forces, the situation was quickly brought under control." An officer claimed that the TSD was able to use technical means to operate deep within Pakistan and find out the trajectories of terror plots against targets in India. "At a cost of just Rs 20-30 crore annually, the Army was able to finally reach the actual sources of terror operations and not just tackle the symptoms," a former officer claimed.

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