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  • In my opinion Iran will never abondon its aim to obtain nuclear power because of "balance of power" issues.

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    • there is no peace just buying tim

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      • Remember there is no peace on the middle east or eny where without balanced military power.it can be achieved at one way or another ,one way is Israel and region without nuc.weapons but this is imposible because in that case Israel woud be in extremly hevy position and Israel will never drop nuc.weapons.For them nuc.weapon is guarantee for survival ,on the other hand nobody has ever negotiated about peace or anything in a situation where he was in advance and overwhelming and also only one side wiht nucs is extremly dengerios situation which brings constantly instability.So it is natural for Iran to obtain nuc. weapons and that is their right in todays circumstances.Five state, Iranian neighbors, are nuclear powers.Their enemy Israel is one of them + USA only super power today, so there is nothing strange Iran want it too.Iran has defansive doctrine,Iranian armed forces have have been developed and armed for last 30 years only with defansive weapons and weapons for deterance.Also Nuclear weapons is defansive weapon for deterance.I have 25 years of expirience in armed forces as command oficer,also have 4 years of war expirience,i woud say and every one who know any thing about defence:
        When assessing the armed forces of a some country and its intentions ,need looking to its doctrine, the types and quantities of weapons and movement nd position of its forces.It does not matter what the politicians are talking before the election,Iran has very huge defansive capatibility,they are in top 5 when it comes defence and their geografic position and extremely difficult terrain contribute greatly to this.But when it comes to ofensive sapatibility they have it but very limited and that offensive capatibility are completly within the defensive doctrine and limited to the region.With every move they show their intention and that is we will only defence our self.
        Iran constitution alow only defensive war in case they are attacked,they have not responded with chemical weapons even when it was massively used against them.
        Iran has very civilized and tolerant society in contrast to the majority in the region but media war and propaganda used against them have done that most ordinary people here in Europe and in other Western world believes in complete nonsense.

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        • israeal isnt iran neighbor !
          Iran has very civilized and tolerant society in contrast to the majority in the region but media war and propaganda used against them have done that most ordinary people here in Europe and in other Western world believes in complete nonsense.
          thats true and t

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          • Originally posted by death View Post
            israeal isnt iran neighbor !
            I think Nelsa meant neighbor in the region, which is correct. Perhaps you meant not a good neighbor in Iran's eyes.
            To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato

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            • I think Nelsa meant neighbor in the region
              in our neighbors just pakistan has nuck(and NATO in turkey) but pakistan has strong conflict with india and many problems with afghanistan if they want to use their nuck we are last of the list
              iran wont nuck for lunch to israel or start war against the other countries they want nuck for prevent american invasion , iran and israel never start real war because there is more than 1000 km distance between us !

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              • about region pakistan israel and russion have nuck !

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                • Originally posted by death View Post
                  in our neighbors just pakistan has nuck(and NATO in turkey) but pakistan has strong conflict with india and many problems with afghanistan if they want to use their nuck we are last of the list
                  iran wont nuck for lunch to israel or start war against the other countries they want nuck for prevent american invasion , iran and israel never start real war because there is more than 1000 km distance between us !
                  The best way for Iran to prevent a US invasion (attack) is for Iran not to have nukes. Iran wants nukes for hegemony in the region. They won't protect Iran from the US. Iran's attitude toward the US has a lot to do with internal power politics.
                  To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato

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                  • Originally posted by JAD_333 View Post
                    The best way for Iran to prevent a US invasion (attack) is for Iran not to have nukes. Iran wants nukes for hegemony in the region. They won't protect Iran from the US. Iran's attitude toward the US has a lot to do with internal power politics.
                    iraq hadnt cw but us started the war ! for region hegemony iran doesnt need any nuck after syrian civil war every thing changes! for shia , iran is a leader for soni , she is an enemy! if iran build nuck KSA buy it from pakistan (when pakistan start his nuck plan ksa invested lots of mony on that)and eygept start his nuck program !
                    north korea has nuck and many people in Iran believe that their nucks are an important role to prevent US invasion
                    on the other hand ,iran knows obama never starts the new war specially near the iraq and afghanistan so she were in golden time ! and did what she could
                    Iran's attitude toward the US has a lot to do with internal power politics.
                    in iran ther is one source of power only one and your idea isnt correct

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                    • Originally posted by JAD_333 View Post
                      The best way for Iran to prevent a US invasion (attack) is for Iran not to have nukes. Iran wants nukes for hegemony in the region. They won't protect Iran from the US. Iran's attitude toward the US has a lot to do with internal power politics.
                      iraq hadnt cw but us started the war ! for region hegemony iran doesnt need any nuck after syrian civil war every thing changes! for shia , iran is a leader for soni , she is an enemy! if iran build nuck KSA buy it from pakistan (when pakistan start his nuck plan ksa invested lots of mony on that)and eygept start his nuck program !
                      north korea has nuck and many people in Iran believe that their nucks are an important role to prevent US invasion
                      on the other hand ,iran knows obama never starts the new war specially near the iraq and afghanistan so she were in golden time ! and did what she could
                      Iran's attitude toward the US has a lot to do with internal power politics.
                      in iran ther is one source of power only one and your idea isnt correct

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                      • A fanboy with zero grasp of the facts.

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                        • i was born in iran and i live in iran i speak about what i see every day!

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                          • Does not make you a nuclear weapons expert by any stretch of the imagination.

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                            • you just talking with out any logical reason

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                              • Originally posted by death View Post
                                you just talking with out any logical reason
                                You really want me to prove you are an idiot. Fine.

                                Here you go, idiot.

                                Originally posted by death View Post
                                iraq hadnt cw but us started the war !
                                Iraqi chemical weapons research started in 1974, well before your war.

                                Originally posted by death View Post
                                if iran build nuck KSA buy it from pakistan (when pakistan start his nuck plan ksa invested lots of mony on that)and eygept start his nuck program !
                                Both Egypt and Saudi Arabia are signatories to the NPT, as is Iran, and therefore, legally cannot own nuclear weapons until they leave the NPT. That being said, the only way under the NPT that Saudi Arabia can get Pakistani nukes is to have Pakistan station their nuclear weapons in Saudi Arabia. Islamabad must order the weapons release, not Ridyah.

                                That being said, Pakistani nukes are clumsy and have no guarrantee that it will work. All their tests were duds. It is assumed that they learned enough from their tests to correct their mistakes but their fixes have not been tested.

                                In the meantime, both Saudi Arabia and Egypt are under the American nuclear umbrella that is a 1000 times more advanced and a 1000 times larger than Pakistan's.

                                You're telling me that Saudi Arabia is going to trade 10,000 working nukes for 100 not so sure it will work nukes.

                                Originally posted by death View Post
                                north korea has nuck and many people in Iran believe that their nucks are an important role to prevent US invasion
                                North Korea doesn't have nukes. She has duds. Three tests and all of them failed. The only thing stopping any invasion of North Korea is 26 million North Korean beggars on the streets of the invader.

                                Originally posted by death View Post
                                on the other hand ,iran knows obama never starts the new war specially near the iraq and afghanistan so she were in golden time ! and did what she could
                                Iran's nukes started with AQ Khan. Well before Obama.

                                Originally posted by death View Post
                                in iran ther is one source of power only one and your idea isnt correct
                                Yours certainly is not.

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