Indian Navy sub sinks at berth after explosion/ 18 aboard.

[cdude]

I heard that Chinese pilot bumped into that plane, stupid. USA spying means military confrontation? Your paranoia is epic and laughable . Still you nation poses Zero threat to USA. All your military capabilities are there to bully small neighbours .

So what China has been doing against USA which is more confronting than what PLA is doing at LAC. How about nuclear weapon proliferation to Pakistan by China against India. Fighting India till last Pakistani ?

I stand correct that China was top arms importer. How China manages/ed it better with its cooked book economy is anyone guess.

Indian policy makers very well know about the size of their pocket and what their short term and long term requirements are. The size of Indian economy can sustain the expenditure we intend to do. Your generic propaganda statistics can not give you authority to comment on Indian procurement process and budget allocation details. Neither you are qualified nor you will be able to debate on it. All three wings of our forces return surplus budget every year. If you want to discuss it in detail then trust me you will end up knowing that we still do not equip our forces well to meet the challenges posed by Impulsive Islamic republic and Communist hegemon .

Well, here you take your game up a notch. I highlighted your points. And I think you "win" the debate

You didn't answer me. What is your interest about Indian roads vis a vis topic in hand.

Hmmm, you remind me of a long lost member of the board .......... adux. Good times.

[Firestorm]

Ambidex, I hope you realize you are feeding the troll.

[Doktor]

Ambidex, I hope you realize you are feeding the troll.

On top of it, in a wrong thread.

[gf0012-aust]

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[lemontree]

Arming yourself to what extend? That's the question....

Armies are armed as per the threat perception of what the adversary can throw at them.
We have to cater to our defence requirements that are very strategic in nature, to ensure that Chinese aggressive measures can be neutralised and punished also.

I've argued that India's ruling class tend to overstate the threat and overspend on imported weapons.

Please support your argument with some examples, so that we can understand your perception and debate it.

With that kind of money, I would've built some more roads.

The roads are being built.

I think my commies went to war with you guys in 1962, so what's your point?

- 1954 Enchroached on Aksai Chin, without sorting out the borders with India.
- 1962 war (but we blame our politicians more than we blame the PLA for it).
- 1967 skirmish in Sikkim (the PLA was clobbered by us here).
- 1986 almost went to war.

As you see above, the more we perfected our armed forces the more the PLA backed off.
Till the 1980's Indians had stayed away from the disputed frontiers, but as the armed forces developed its capabilities and gained confidence to address the PLA threat, infrastructure began to be developed and the InA started to re-establish its presence in the fontiers. This is something that was resented by the PLA and it resulted in the Somdorong Chu incident. The PLA backed off.

This is the same reason that the intrusions are taking place in Ladhak.
We know war is not an option for India and China - but why take a chance :)

[jlvfr]

Fighting the fire

I guess they got at least some luck, saving the 2nd sub.

[desertswo]

Fighting the fire

I guess they got at least some luck, saving the 2nd sub.

THAT'S FROM A FIRE INSIDE THE SUBMARINE?!!!! Good Lord, I think there's a job for me somewhere in that mess.