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    Inside the Saudi prisons where terrorists caught in Saudi Arabia are sent Read more:

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    Sex parties, a gym and a spa: Inside the Saudi prisons where terrorists caught in Saudi Arabia are sent | Mail Online

    Islamic terrorists – some of whom fought and killed British soldiers in Afghanistan - caught in Saudi Arabia are to receive 'luxury rehabilitation'.

    The conservative oil rich state is hoping to steer jailed al-Qaeda militants away from religious extremism with counselling, spa treatments and exercise at a luxury rehabilitation centre in Riyadh, news agencies there are reporting.

    The luxury facilities, which the country has spared no expense on providing, include Olympic-size indoor swimming pool, a sauna, a gym and a television hall.

    For those who have shown signs of good behaviour, two day breaks may be granted for those who wish proximity with their wives, in special 'suites' which are part of the complex.

    The program will accommodate around 3,000 prisoners in 5 centres in the kingdom but it is the new facility in Riyadh, however, which is to offer prisoners a 'taste of luxury as an incentive to moderate their beliefs'.

    All the centres bear the name of the current interior minister, who lead the government’s crackdown on Al-Qaeda within Saudi Arabia following deadly attacks by the group between 2003 and 2006 in which more than 150 Saudis and foreigners were killed.

    During the crackdown, many militants fled south into Yemen’s lawless southern and south eastern regions where the network formed 'Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula' in January 2009 -- classified by the United States as the jihadists’ deadliest branch.

    The Riyadh luxury facility covers over area equivalent to around 10 football pitches and is designed to accommodate 228 prisoners from the 'deviant group,' the term used by Saudi authorities to refer to Al-Qaeda.

    Each of the 12 buildings at the flagship facility will host 19 prisoners, who will have access to special suites where they can spend time with visiting family members.

    During the day, the prisoners will attend seminars on religious affairs, aimed at teaching them the errors of their ways through their misguided thoughts of jihad.

    'In order to fight terrorism, we must give them an intellectual and psychological balance... through dialogue and persuasion'” said the director of the rehabilitation centres, Said al-Bishi.

    He said a total of 2,336 Al-Qaeda prisoners have now been through Saudi rehabilitation schemes.
    But not all Al Quada inmates who go through the program become 'converted' to their rehabilitation.

    In fact, the director of the centres admits in an interview with journalists that around 10 percent of those who go through the program go back to their terrorist cells. Moreover, there have been some high profile individuals who went through it before leaving and returning to even greater notoriety in Al Quada in that region.

    Furthermore, critics in the region have argued that the religious instruction given to inmates is not moderate enough and is too close to many of the jihadists’ interpretation of the Koran and too close to Al Qaeda's own views.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Is this a freaking joke? I was thinking this was some human rights story, not how Saudi prisons for terrorist are better than my college dorm. Freaking disgusting
    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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    In addition and upon successful completion of the rehabilitation, the Saudi government will provide gainful employment, a flat, a car, and assist single individuals in finding/securing a Saudi wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minskaya View Post
    In addition and upon successful completion of the rehabilitation, the Saudi government will provide gainful employment, a flat, a car, and assist single individuals in finding/securing a Saudi wife.
    "Securing" a Saudi wife? Interesting terminology.

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    This is how every country ought to treat their war veterans! They should learn a thing or two from the Saudis!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chanjyj View Post
    "Securing" a Saudi wife? Interesting terminology.
    Most young Saudi's cannot afford a wife due to the monetary costs involved. The government will underwrite items such as bride price, the wedding party, honeymoon, etc.

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    "Bride price"

    Cost/benefit and RoI analysis included for each "model"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    "Bride price"

    Cost/benefit and RoI analysis included for each "model"?
    Yes man. Especially when there is a buy 1 get 2 free scheme involved.

    Saudi man agrees to marry woman along with friends at her insistence!

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    P.S. Doktor saab, how do you pronounce name of your city?

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    Most young Saudi's cannot afford a wife

    I think it's like that in a lot of places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    "Bride price"
    In many Arab cultures, there us a bride price which will be negotiated between the families of the respective spouses. The more affluent the bride's family, the higher the bride price. This ensures that her family will be compensated for her absence, and that she does not marry below her station. In return, the bride will bring her dowry into the marriage, which can be in the form of currency, gemstones, gold, jewelry, or other valuables. Since her family has been adding to her dowry since birth, its value can be quite substantial. The marriage negotiations will usually strive to reach an agreement whereby the bride's family comes out slightly ahead.

    This can work the other way also. If a girl is unattractive, obese, handicapped, mentally challenged etc., the bride price is intentionally set low so the family can more easily get rid of her and her costs. This is the typical scenario where much older men will 'buy' teen/child brides, sexually abuse them, divorce them, and then repeat the cycle.

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    In return, the bride will bring her dowry into the marriage, which can be in the form of currency, gemstones, gold, jewelry, or other valuables.
    Like good cooking skills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minskaya View Post
    In many Arab cultures, there us a bride price which will be negotiated between the families of the respective spouses. The more affluent the bride's family, the higher the bride price. This ensures that her family will be compensated for her absence, and that she does not marry below her station. In return, the bride will bring her dowry into the marriage, which can be in the form of currency, gemstones, gold, jewelry, or other valuables. Since her family has been adding to her dowry since birth, its value can be quite substantial. The marriage negotiations will usually strive to reach an agreement whereby the bride's family comes out slightly ahead.

    This can work the other way also. If a girl is unattractive, obese, handicapped, mentally challenged etc., the bride price is intentionally set low so the family can more easily get rid of her and her costs. This is the typical scenario where much older men will 'buy' teen/child brides, sexually abuse them, divorce them, and then repeat the cycle.
    Mam, this is called mahr I think. By Sharia law, the bride owns that amount and has full right to it, and it is forbidden for the groom or his or the bride's families to exert any claim or control over it.

    However, the reality is often different.

    In some cities of India, it is an annual fair, where the sheikhs come in, check out the potential, and depart with a bride or 2. Leaving the Indian family significantly richer. And blessed that their daughter has departed for the holy shores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minskaya View Post
    In many Arab cultures, there us a bride price which will be negotiated between the families of the respective spouses. The more affluent the bride's family, the higher the bride price. This ensures that her family will be compensated for her absence, and that she does not marry below her station. In return, the bride will bring her dowry into the marriage, which can be in the form of currency, gemstones, gold, jewelry, or other valuables. Since her family has been adding to her dowry since birth, its value can be quite substantial. The marriage negotiations will usually strive to reach an agreement whereby the bride's family comes out slightly ahead.

    This can work the other way also. If a girl is unattractive, obese, handicapped, mentally challenged etc., the bride price is intentionally set low so the family can more easily get rid of her and her costs. This is the typical scenario where much older men will 'buy' teen/child brides, sexually abuse them, divorce them, and then repeat the cycle.
    Free, regulated, market economy then.

    Sounds a lot like arranged marriages.

    On a side note, is there any money back guarantee if one is not satisfied with goods purchased?

    I know i sound vulgar and chauvinistic, but that's the 'polite way' of my anger venting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doppelganger View Post
    Mam, this is called mahr I think.
    It is called different things in different cultures. In Poland/Lithuania/Belarus/Ukraine during the interwar years (and among some Jewish Orthodox communities today), many Jewish marriages were arranged by a professional matchmaker (called a shadchan) who received a fee for a successful marriage match.

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