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Why Pakistan won't give up Hafiz Saeed
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Originally posted by Firestorm View PostIf you ever meet a former Afghan Mujahideen fighter who fought the Soviet occupation, please tell him that it was Pakistanis who were actually doing all the fighting and dying and beating the Soviets. I'm sure he will be quite amused. ;)
That said, I did not imply that the Afghan's did nothing, they certainly did most of the fighting and dying, but the facts are that all three (Afghans, Pakistanis and Americans) played an integral role in defeating the Soviets, and Pakistanis (both civilian and military) did plenty of 'training, fighting and dying' to allow the Afghan Mujahideen to eventually wear the Soviets out.
The US would certainly have not been able to pull this off on its own.Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic state to be ruled by priests with a divine mission - Jinnah
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There are enough actors in Pakistan for India or US to actually pay off and kill their targets. Hafeez Saeed can be killed for the right money.
Pakistan will combust internally in the very near future with some serious fall out (pun intended) . And both India and United States will be and should be held responsible for letting it go this far.
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...In a sense, Saeed is the new face of the evolution of militancy in Pakistan, the kind that Humaira Iqtidar predicts in her book, [B]Secularizing Islamists: Jama'at-e-Islami and Jama'at-ud-Da'wa in Urban Pakistan, from far right extremism to center right, and then to progressive. Saeed's evolution into a political actor, along with his charismatic ability to mobilize thousands of people, is what makes him marketable to an establishment that is desperately seeking ways to counter terrorism in Pakistan during and after the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.
But once the US leaves, then Afghanistan will be the new war zone.
Cheers!...on the rocks!!
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostWe're getting a divorce but we're not the battered bitch in this relationship.Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic state to be ruled by priests with a divine mission - Jinnah
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Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View PostYou are 'getting a divorce' after being turned into a 'battered bitch', and, as is typical with most US endeavors abroad where the US is turned into a 'battered bitch', you are taking the easy way out (cutting and running) and slinking back home while scapegoating everything and everyone as an excuse for being made a 'battered bitch'.
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Originally posted by doppelganger View PostI think he meant that Pakistan was the battered bitch.
Pakistan will deal with this monster one way or another, the US is merely following its tendencies to run away crying after being battered as seen in Vietnam and now Afghanistan.Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic state to be ruled by priests with a divine mission - Jinnah
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Originally posted by Doktor View PostCare to explain more?Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic state to be ruled by priests with a divine mission - Jinnah
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Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View PostYou are 'getting a divorce' after being turned into a 'battered bitch', and, as is typical with most US endeavors abroad where the US is turned into a 'battered bitch', you are taking the easy way out (cutting and running) and slinking back home while scapegoating everything and everyone as an excuse for being made a 'battered bitch'.
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostNo, you're just bending over and taking it up the ass.Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostBattered bitches don't get charged for domestic abuse.Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic state to be ruled by priests with a divine mission - Jinnah
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