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    On the contrary I agree and include that in primary objective targeting. I am merely saying uranium enrichment 'bunkers' come secondary to weapons and general 'infrastructure collapse' or Linebacker operations come after that - if you wish to stop a possible escalation in this scenario.

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    Unfortunately, nukes have something called the National Command Authority and that must be taken out, disabled, etc and that means powergrids, tv/radio stations, bridges, etc, anything to stop or to reduce the NCA's ability to execute and that means bridges, electrical grids, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapper View Post
    On the contrary I agree and include that in primary objective targeting. I am merely saying uranium enrichment 'bunkers' come secondary to weapons and general 'infrastructure collapse' or Linebacker operations come after that - if you wish to stop a possible escalation in this scenario.
    I respect you but you did not get me,

    What have I specified on my target list that I can ignore on a first strike mission?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    The LINEBACKER campaigns collapsed the Vietnamese economy, requiring massive influx of funds and especially rice from both China and the USSR. Iran has no such friends.
    Sir, but even with a collapsed economy they won the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontree View Post
    Sir, but even with a collapsed economy they won the war.
    They lost the peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestorm View Post
    Sir, the sanctions put on Iran and stoppage of usual payment routes is actually forcing them to accept RMBs and Rupees in exchange for their oil. How does that fit in? And international oil prices were increasing long before the Iran crisis started. And it doesn't seem to have affected them very much.
    No mate, the payment is still in USD. Till 2010 the Rupee had gained against the USD and was trading INR 45 = 1 $, but as the Iran crisis developed the USD gained and was trading around INR 52 = 1 $ by 2011 (when the GDP growth was just 2.5% for that year). In 2012 the exchange rate had gone to INR 55 = 1 $.

    As the crisis develops, availability of international crude oil reduces as Iranian crude is denied markets, the heavy demands from India and China shoot up the price of oil and hence we all end up buying up more dollars.

    .....the idiotic Iranian leadership painted a bullseye on themselves by threatening Israel.
    There is no doubt about that....they are akin to our right wing regional parochial political parties.

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    Captain, there is no right nor wrong about this. This is history. Our governments made their choices ... and for the longest time, I did not understand why India made the choices that she made ... until you made it clear ... for which I am grateful.

    I don't know anywhere else but WAB is the first place I've made where we former enemies really made an effort to educate each other ... and for that, I am eternally grateful to call you all friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    They lost the peace.
    They prevailed in the end and that is what matters in the long run. The US unleashed all its conventional military might but did not prevail.

    In the case of Iran, bombing them is not an option, because then the economic benifits (for the US) created by the crisis will be lost.

    If the US wants to defeat Iran, then it will have to open up for India a reliable source of crude at competive prices. This will leave only China as Irans customer, and will criple Iran financially as China as other sources of oil and does not have to depend on Iranian crude.

    The only thing that will bring Iran to the negotiating table will be when they do not have food in the stores and the Iranian public begins to turn on the Govt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Captain, there is no right nor wrong about this. This is history. Our governments made their choices ... and for the longest time, I did not understand why India made the choices that she made ... until you made it clear ... for which I am grateful.

    I don't know anywhere else but WAB is the first place I've made where we former enemies really made an effort to educate each other ... and for that, I am eternally grateful to call you all friend.
    Glad to be of help sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontree View Post
    They prevailed in the end and that is what matters in the long run. The US unleashed all its conventional military might but did not prevail.
    Hehehehehehee, Captain, the Americans did prevailed ... or rather the Canadians did. SWSNBN is a bigger sellar the the Communist Manifesto.

    Jokes aside, once Deng Xia Peng adopted Capitalism, the rest of Asia had no choice but to follow ... God. that included India and Russia!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lemontree View Post
    In the case of Iran, bombing them is not an option, because then the economic benifits (for the US) created by the crisis will be lost.
    Just how hard is the CICH-4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Jokes aside, once Deng Xia Peng adopted Capitalism, the rest of Asia had no choice but to follow ... God. that included India and Russia!!!!
    Sir, India always had a mixed economy, some sectors were nationalised and the license raj existed but nevertheless it was not a completely socialist economy.

    The economy was opened up in the mid 80's during the time of Rajiv Gandhi's regime, much before the Soviet Russia broke up. It had to speed up after the oil prices shot up after Gulf War I....

    Just how hard is the CICH-4?
    Sir, the design even if copied by the Iranians may not have a worthwhile bang. But would it be worth bombing them because they are making a nuke that may not work?

    They are looked upon as the "David" facing the US Goliath, in the Arab and Islamic world. Why make them a demi-Gods by bombing them?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontree View Post


    There is no doubt about that....they are akin to our right wing regional parochial political parties.
    You are comparing BJP to the Iranian mullahs?? Can you make any this any more idiotic than you have with this statement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontree View Post
    Sir, the design even if copied by the Iranians may not have a worthwhile bang. But would it be worth bombing them because they are making a nuke that may not work?

    They are looked upon as the "David" facing the US Goliath, in the Arab and Islamic world. Why make them a demi-Gods by bombing them?....
    Captain, the original poster's premise is what can we do about Iran. However, there is another point here. Iran gave her word about not getting nukes and signed a treaty stating such. Violation of that treaty is not something that should be treated lightly, given the deadly results out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blademaster View Post
    You are comparing BJP to the Iranian mullahs?? Can you make any this any more idiotic than you have with this statement?
    As they say, assumption is the mother of all fcuk ups....
    I was referring to Shiv Sena, DMK, AIDMK, MNS, BSP etc....BJP is not a regional parochial party.

    The BJP on the other hand is a national party, whose mentors the RSS polarise the masses by formenting communal hatred.

    Stop being an idiot for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontree View Post
    As they say, assumption is the mother of all fcuk ups....
    I was referring to Shiv Sena, DMK, AIDMK, MNS, BSP etc....BJP is not a regional parochial party.

    The BJP on the other hand is a national party, whose mentors the RSS polarise the masses by formenting communal hatred.
    Show any concrete proof that the RSS has formented communal hatred instead of the sensational grandstanding comments made by Congress.

    Quote Originally Posted by lemontree
    Stop being an idiot for a change.

    Good job! Now you have mastered the basics of saying the statement. The next step is to look at the mirror and see it applied to the person that is most needed.

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