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  • Isn't that cruel and unusual punishment and therefore, against the criminal code? I let the father have 5 minutes with the kid, letting him know that he will be caught, and he will be punished, and letting him make the choice of going to jail or not for the rest of his life. If it was my daughter, I'll gladly spend my remaining years behind bars.

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    • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
      Isn't that cruel and unusual punishment and therefore, against the criminal code? I let the father have 5 minutes with the kid, letting him know that he will be caught, and he will be punished, and letting him make the choice of going to jail or not for the rest of his life. If it was my daughter, I'll gladly spend my remaining years behind bars.
      It is not cruel and unusual punishment. Otherwise Gitmo would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

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      • Sara Sidner groped reporting Mumbai Terrorist attack

        Oh boy, what happened to Sara? She was for a long time the hottest reporter at Fox2 San Francisco, she really let it go. On the other hand, anytime is a good time to grope a CNN reporter.

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        • Originally posted by cdude View Post
          On the other hand, anytime is a good time to grope a CNN reporter.
          Your sense of morality is phenomenal
          "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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          • Originally posted by antimony View Post
            Your sense of morality is phenomenal
            you need to watch the video in which those guys decided "anytime is a good time to grope a CNN reporter".

            That's what they did, I didn't encourage them.

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            • Originally posted by cdude View Post
              you need to watch the video in which those guys decided "anytime is a good time to grope a CNN reporter".

              That's what they did, I didn't encourage them.
              You ability to find unsavoury and unimportant shit and weave them as talking points in your forum posts is phenomenal
              "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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              • So, everything about his posts is phenomenal?
                No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                • Originally posted by Doktor View Post
                  So, everything about his posts is phenomenal?
                  No, he is...

                  For the wrong reasons...
                  "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                  • Originally posted by antimony View Post
                    Your sense of morality is phenomenal

                    You ability to find unsavoury and unimportant shit and weave them as talking points in your forum posts is phenomenal
                    It's hilarious you people always get personal.

                    Do you think I really care what an internet ID says about me? come on.

                    Blame CNN, they show the rape stories and incredible India ads back to back. That was one of the most ironic TV moments in recent memory.

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                    • [QUOTE=cdude;928820]It's hilarious you people always get personal.

                      Do you think I really care what an internet ID says about me? come on.

                      Its hilarious that you take offence to any criticism on whatever you spew out

                      Originally posted by cdude View Post
                      Blame CNN, they show the rape stories and incredible India ads back to back.
                      Its news. Its is sad, but it is legitimate news

                      Meanwhile this...

                      Originally posted by cdude View Post
                      you need to watch the video in which those guys decided "anytime is a good time to grope a CNN reporter".
                      is garbage
                      "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                      • That's what they did, I didn't encourage them.
                        Your fault for reporting it :pari:

                        is garbage
                        Actually it was a accurate tongue in cheek comment about the situation. A group of up standing citizens decided to sexually assault a CNN reporter - on camera during a terrorist attack. Guess she should be happy none of them had a metal pipe.

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                        Well the use of a pipe only warrants three years,
                        Outrage in India over first Delhi gang-rape sentence
                        Outrage in India over first Delhi gang-rape sentence
                        AFP
                        Ammu Kannampilly 5 hours ago

                        India's opposition said Sunday it would seek tougher punishments for juveniles after the first verdict in the New Delhi gang-rape case saw a teenager sentenced to three years' detention, sparking widespread anger.

                        The rape and murder of a 23-year-old student by six attackers on a moving bus last December sparked nationwide protests and led to reforms that mandated longer sentences for adult sex offenders.

                        Sushma Swaraj, opposition leader in the lower house of parliament, said she would introduce a bill this week to amend the law for juveniles.

                        "This meagre punishment of just three years does not do justice," Swaraj wrote on Twitter.

                        "The sentence must commensurate with the gravity of the offence irrespective of the age of the offender," she added.

                        On Saturday a juvenile court in New Delhi sentenced the only under-age suspect in the gang -- who was 17 at the time of the crime -- to three years in a correctional facility.

                        This was the maximum sentence under Indian law, which treats all under-18s as children and seeks to reform rather than punish them.
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                        Activists demand the death sentence of a teenager convicted …
                        Activists demand the death sentence of a teenager convicted of gang-rape at a New Delhi court on Aug …

                        "TRAVESTY: December 16 teen rapist 'gets away' with murder," a headline in the tabloid Mail Today read, summing up the mood.

                        The convicted teen will spend about 28 months in a juvenile detention centre, having already spent about eight months in custody awaiting the verdict.

                        "He can watch TV, play games while doing time," the Hindustan Times reported, while pointing out that police sources had earlier described the teenager as "the most brutal" of the six attackers.

                        The Times of India said the gang-rape victim had "been denied justice" by the juvenile court.

                        Subramanian Swamy, a politician from the main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, told AFP the teenager "should have been executed" and he intended to file an appeal against Saturday's court order.

                        Swamy has already lodged a petition in the Supreme Court challenging India's juvenile law for not taking the gravity of a crime into account during sentencing.

                        "It's ridiculous to think you can reform a person who has committed a heinous crime, who has raped and murdered a young woman in such a brutal fashion," he added.

                        According to the teenager's defence lawyer, his conduct will be observed and the sentence could be reduced for good behaviour.

                        The juvenile was employed to clean the bus where the attack took place and often slept rough or inside the vehicle, reports say.

                        A child rights activist who knows him said he grew up poor in a village in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh and moved to Delhi on his own at the age of 11 when he began a string of menial jobs.

                        "He changed jobs all the time, desperate to earn more and send money to his family," the activist told AFP on condition of anonymity.

                        A government panel set up after the gang-rape to recommend changes to sex crime laws rejected calls to lower the age at which people can be tried as adults from 18 to 16.

                        The panel's report in January also said it was "completely dissatisfied with the operation of children's institutions", a view echoed by several child rights activists.

                        Shahbaz Khan, co-founder of Haq: Centre for Child Rights, which has provided counselling to the convicted juvenile told AFP there were often "no trained social workers and psychologists placed inside these institutions", thus undermining any effort at rehabilitation.

                        The attack on the young woman brought simmering anger about endemic sex crime in India to the boil, and turned her attackers into public hate figures.

                        But despite soul-searching and a new law toughening sentences for rapists, sex crimes have continued unabated, with almost every day bringing news of a new grave offence.

                        News emerged Saturday evening of another attack in the Noida suburb of the capital, where a woman was allegedly gang-raped by five men including two police constables.

                        The Press Trust of India said the 25-year-old victim was attacked while visiting a male friend, who was also assaulted by the gang of five.

                        Last month a 22-year-old photographer was gang-raped in Mumbai while taking pictures at an abandoned mill in a posh part of the commercial capital.

                        Protesters outside the juvenile court Saturday and the victim's family called for the teenager to be hanged.

                        The victim, a physiotherapy student, died of internal injuries two weeks after being raped and assaulted with an iron bar on the night of December 16.

                        Her male companion was beaten up before both were thrown bleeding from the bus.

                        A separate trial of the four adult suspects in a fast-track court is hearing closing arguments and is expected to wrap up in the next few weeks, with the men facing a possible death sentence if convicted.

                        The fifth adult, the suspected ringleader, died in jail in an apparent suicide.
                        If cdude would just keep his mouth shut this shit wouldn't be happening.
                        Last edited by troung; 01 Sep 13,, 17:53.
                        To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

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                        • troung, aka mr. sherlock holmes wannabe,

                          Read the news and see why he got 3 years. It was because he was a juvenile and under the Indian Penal Codes the most a juvenile can get is 3 years. The police want to charge him as an adult but the courts ruled him as a juvenile on account of a bone marrow test. If he was an adult, he would have received the death penalty.

                          Now there are talks of revising the penal codes for juveniles to warrant stiffer penalties for such evil acts.

                          Do better next time.

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                          • I hope his release will have due media coverage with current photos and his new address.
                            No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                            To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                            • BM shows up glass jaw in the air hands down at his side as per usual.

                              Read the news and see why he got 3 years. It was because he was a juvenile and under the Indian Penal Codes the most a juvenile can get is 3 years. The police want to charge him as an adult but the courts ruled him as a juvenile on account of a bone marrow test. If he was an adult, he would have received the death penalty.
                              I did read it. He sexually assaulted a woman with a pipe, who died from her injuries, and got three years though he could get out early. That there is a legal code in place which allows him to get three years for murdering a woman with a pipe because he was 17 years old when he murdered said woman doesn't change the fact he got three years for murdering a woman with a pipe.

                              Don't you have a revolution to go lead or something?

                              I hope his release will have due media coverage with current photos and his new address.
                              Hopefully they don't have a female journalist covering the event.
                              Last edited by troung; 01 Sep 13,, 20:40.
                              To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

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                              • Originally posted by troung View Post
                                Don't you have a revolution to go lead or something?
                                Why would he, India changes her laws as we speak, so nothing similar will go with so mild punishment.
                                No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                                To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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