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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestorm View Post
    This site contains some images of the attack, including those of the Ambassador himself being dragged through a street. The images seem to be missing from CNN and other major websites apparently. Warning: Graphic Content.

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    The scale and brutality of this attack seems to suggest this was something far more than just a protest against some movie gone wrong. I mean there is no shortage of lunatics in the middle east, but still, this looks like a well-planned terrorist attack.
    The caption by AKNN.media for the photo of the ambassador being dragged reads:

    | AKNN News
    8 hours ago
    شبكة آخر خبر | السفير الأمريكي في ليبيا اثناء محاولات انقاذه بعد هجوم على قنصلية بلاده في بنغازي احتجاجا على فيلم مسيء للرسول
    Network News | U.s. Ambassador to Libya during attempts to rescue him after an attack on his country's Consulate in Benghazi protesting the film offensive to Messenger (Translated by Bing)


    https://www.facebook.com/AKNN.Media

    Arab man-in-the-street reaction, as reflected in comments on AKNN's facebook page under the photo, were overwhelmingly critical of the attack.
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    Looks like AQ and its local affiliates have probably been planning this attack for the 9/11 date.

    US officials suspect strike on Benghazi post 'coordinated,' timed for 9/11 anniversary | Fox News

    Bad luck that the Ambassador was there.

    Yes, I of all people am quoting Fox now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywatcher View Post
    Looks like AQ and its local affiliates have probably been planning this attack for the 9/11 date.

    US officials suspect strike on Benghazi post 'coordinated,' timed for 9/11 anniversary | Fox News

    Bad luck that the Ambassador was there.

    Yes, I of all people am quoting Fox now.
    Yeah, a "spontaneous" protest with RPGs and mortars timed on the anniversary of 9/11 against an obscure film nobody paid attention to before. Doesn't take a genius to finger that one for a set up.

    Early word is that Libya security services fought back and got the Ambassador's body back, per JAD's post above. Next up, getting the bastards who did this and hanging them high.

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    And was there even a film?

    Questions swirl around anti-Islam film blamed for Egypt protest, attack in Libya - World News

    This reeks more and more of bovine excrement.

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    Perhaps they need a hole to N'har to allow them be ministered to by their buddy bin laden...
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    Murdered State Department official Sean Smith was influential online gamer

    Murdered State Department official Sean Smith was influential online gamer

    By Eric Pfeiffer, Yahoo! News | The Lookout – 1 hr 57 mins ago


    Today, the U.S. is recoiling from the tragic news that Sean Smith, a State Department official, was one of four individuals killed in a rocket attack in Libya. The U.S. ambassador to Libya was also among those who died.

    Smith, a foreign service information management officer, had a sphere of influence that extended far beyond the realm of real-world diplomacy: He was also a respected and hugely influential figure in the world of online gaming.

    For much of the past decade, Smith was an avid player of Eve Online, a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG). The game has more than 400,000 players, who take on roles as warriors, strategists and even diplomats in a science-fiction setting.

    Alex Gianturco, aka "The Mittani," one of Smith's Eve Online colleagues, has written a moving tribute to his fallen friend, who went by the online moniker "Vile Rat."

    Smith was online chatting with Gianturco shortly before he was killed in Benghazi. The two men, who had known each other for more than six years, had met several times in person and considered themselves
    close friends both online and in the real world.

    "Many were injured in these pointless, reprehensible acts, and one of my closest friends was killed as a result," Gianturco wrote.

    Gianturco posted excerpts from his final chat with Smith, including this chilling message:

    (12:54:09 PM) vile_rat: assuming we don't die tonight. We saw one of our 'police' that guard the compound taking pictures

    Gianturco writes that Smith's dark humor was nothing new; he had been stationed in other potentially dire situations before.

    "The last time he did something like this, he was in Baghdad in 2007 or 2008," Gianturco wrote. "He would be on jabber [an instant messaging service], then say something like 'incoming' and vanish for a while as the Kayatushas came down from Sadr City."

    Unfortunately, this time was much different.

    "He was on jabber when it happened," Gianturco writes. "In Baghdad the same kind of thing happened - incoming sirens, he'd vanish, we'd freak out and he'd come back ok after a bit. This time he said ... 'GUNFIRE' and then disconnected and never returned.

    "Then the major media began reporting on the consulate and embassy attacks in Libya and Egypt, and I freaked out and then it turned out that it was my friend of six years who helped build this alliance into what it is today since, the very beginning, starting out as one of my agents and growing to become the single most influential diplomat in the history of Eve, or perhaps of any online game," Gianturco writes.

    For those unfamiliar with the world of MMORPG, Gianturco explains that Smith's real-world skills as a State Department official translated to the online game he loved.

    The website Eurogamer has posted an interview with Ned Coker of CCP, makers of Eve Online:

    "I can tell you that CCP and its employees are overwhelmingly saddened by the news of Sean Smith's passing, as we are when we learn of any player who is tragically lost," Coker said. "Many of us interacted with him professionally and personally and, honestly, it feels like our words are lost adrift--amongst such a tremendous, soul-affirming outpouring from the EVE community. The CSM, of which he is an alumni, will be posting a guest dev blog in his honor."

    Smith served as an official diplomat in Eve Online, serving on the Council of Stellar Management, Eve Online's player-elected board, settling conflicts between thousands of players and helping to keep the system sailing smoothly.

    "If you play this stupid game, you may not realize it, but you play in a galaxy created in large part by Vile Rat's talent as a diplomat. No one focused as relentlessly on using diplomacy as a strategic tool as VR," Gianturco wrote.

    "You may have been a friend or an enemy or a pawn in a greater game, but he touched every aspect of EVE in ways that 99% of the population will never understand.

    "It seems kind of trivial to praise a husband, father, and overall badass for his skills in an Internet spaceship game but that's how most of us know him, so there you go," Gianturco wrote.

    Interestingly, Smith was also a respected Dungeons & Dragons player and a moderator on the website Something Awful, which specializes in posting controversial content. However, because of the inherent trickster nature of the site, it's impossible as of now to verify whether Smith was actually part of this community. However, based on the testimonials and his other, more established online profile, it is certainly possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAD_333 View Post
    No way! It's the Roman's fault.
    You always have to take things to the nth degree. Don't you know it's international year of Blame the British.

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    Druids, man. I blame them and, yeah...they're Brits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chunder View Post
    You always have to take things to the nth degree. Don't you know it's international year of Blame the British.

    Thats all you rag tag yanks are. Generic offshoots.
    The year was cut short after those dreadful opening and closing scenes at the Olympics... the international community took pity on them.

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    Reports are now claiming it was an AQ or AQ sympathizing group that staged the attack on the anniversary of 9-11 using the turmoil in Libya to get in close and the film protest was just free cover.

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    I believe these were terrorists - not representing Libya's people in general. I hope they catch them and terminate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    Reports are now claiming it was an AQ or AQ sympathizing group that staged the attack on the anniversary of 9-11 using the turmoil in Libya to get in close and the film protest was just free cover.
    Makes sense. The various AQ people have been trying to pull off things in Libya since Qaddafi died.

    Only a matter of time before something actually succeeded.

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    There a message for Muslims in the fact that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has to go hat in hand to ask a US pastor not to air the film on his church's website. Strong as we are, we can't stop people from exercising their right of free speech.


    Terry Jones Agrees To 'Re-Evaluate' Showing Anti-Islam Film After Call From Top U.S. Military Officer

    Terry Jones Agrees To 'Re-Evaluate' Showing Anti-Islam Film After Call From Top U.S. Military Officer

    WASHINGTON, Sept 12 (Reuters) - General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, called a Florida pastor on Wednesday and asked him to withdraw his support for a film whose portrayal of the Prophet Mohammad has been linked to violent protests - including one that ended with the death of America's envoy to Libya.

    "In the brief call, Gen. Dempsey expressed his concerns over the nature of the film, the tensions it will inflame and the violence it will cause," Dempsey's spokesman, Colonel Dave Lapan, told Reuters.

    U.S. military officials are concerned that the film could inflame tensions in Afghanistan, where 74,000 U.S. troops are fighting. The Taliban called on Afghans on Wednesday to prepare for a fight against Americans and urged insurgents to "take revenge" on U.S. soldiers over the film.

    "He told me he had seen the film and that the film was pornographic ... and very, very bad. He asked me not to support it," Pastor Terry Jones told Reuters.

    Jones agreed to "re-evaluate" his plans to show the film. "If the film is indeed pornographic, then, of course, as a Christian pastor I cannot support that type of film and could not show it," he said.
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    Come to think of it, the whole reaction to the alleged film isn't nearly as big, relatively speaking, as say the Jyllands Post controversy. Yet...

    And if it was a terrorist attack, they were probably targeting the 9/11 anniversary and Al Libi, film or no film.

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    Earlier in the thread there's a good commentary on CNN pointing to AQ involvement. In fact that suspicion cropped up almost immediately after the news of the ambassador's death hit.

    Afghanistan tried to block U-Tube so its people couldn't see the film. Apparently the effort failed. In any case, now the Taliban has issued a call to all its fighters to kill US personnel in revenge for the film.
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