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    DOR-- thanks for the updates as the man on the ground!
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    I hope everybody will be safe. I have an American adventure-scholar friend writing his doctoral thesis on East Asia by flying to every protest he can find around these parts and he's happily posting pictures on FB. Supposedly HK police are backing off after the bad publicity they got the other night.
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    Wonder how long the protesters can keep on blockading things (are the shut down businesses closed because they're being physically blocked from working?) until the man in the street gets fed up with them?

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    Now in Xi'an (anniversary trip with She Who Must Be Obeyed), and enjoying the filtered news everyone else in China gets. BBC and CNN come on the TV for three seconds, then a blank screen for three minutes. That's followed by the normal news show, until the wrap-up, when we "lose the signal" once again, for 30 seconds.

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    There is interesting drone footage on mother jones showing the protests- seems like multiple thousands present blocking roads. Can't figure out how to embed sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis View Post
    DOR-- thanks for the updates as the man on the ground!
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    It looks like people are finding ways around "The Great Firewall"

    Hong Kong democracy protesters flock to new messaging app

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    No single shop was burnt down.

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    The photos are chilling for anyone who live through 1989.

    Has China really changed all that much in the past 25 years?

    We will see.

    I am hoping for the best, but I cannot rid myself of the chill I feel down my spine ......

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    The police threw tear gas during the public are for help.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q93UlAx21W8

    With English sub-title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sated buddha View Post
    The photos are chilling for anyone who live through 1989.

    Has China really changed all that much in the past 25 years?

    We will see.

    I am hoping for the best, but I cannot rid myself of the chill I feel down my spine ......
    They have tear gas now, and it looks like Leung and co. are going to just sit it out. If the protests cause a recession by going on too long, the HK public will quickly turn on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywatcher View Post
    They have tear gas now
    We will see.

    The icy fingers still grip my spine.

    Students and Chinese are not a happy mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sated buddha View Post
    We will see.

    The icy fingers still grip my spine.

    Students and Chinese are not a happy mix.
    Beijing is just happy to sit and wait. It works out pretty well for them if the protests cause a recession in Hong Kong (admittedly, not the most optimal option).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywatcher View Post
    Beijing is just happy to sit and wait. It works out pretty well for them if the protests cause a recession in Hong Kong (admittedly, not the most optimal option).
    There is exactly one way in which Hong Kong goes into recession: a severe drop in trade. Trade is 4-1/2 times the size of the local economy, which makes it nigh on impossible to have a recession if trade is normal or even slow.

    In 2003, world trade roared ahead at about 7%. Hong Kong ground to a halt under SARs, . . . and the economy grew about 2.5%.

    In 2009, with a booming domestic economy -- retail, tourism, construction, finance -- Hong Kong fell about 3% as global trade had its worst year since modern records start, in 1950.

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