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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestorm View Post
    The "destabilization forces" that neutered Assad and toppled Gaddafi are a bigger threat to US natl. security (and even more to European security) than Assad and Gaddafi ever were. Letting Saddam crush them would seem to have been the better option then wouldn't it? In fact, if Saddam had been there ISIS might have never been formed in the first place.
    Let's see. We have 3 men with proven track records of seeking nukes, able to field national armies at the division and corps level vs now where a city can be taken or held by 300 men. And ISIL at its height never measured more than 25,000 men.

    Saddam, Qaddafy, and Assad were a 100 times more powerful than what's around today and they were seeking nukes and stocking piling biochems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    To be clear, i'm not saying things would be better with Saddam. Trying to look forward.


    We end up back in 2010 after the US leaves. There is no reason to remain in Iraq. A year from now i expect they wind up and leave.

    Depending on how Iran plays this, those groups you mention start up again.

    When the Iranian militias were fighting IS, their slogans & songs weren't anti-IS. They were anti-Sunni.

    Who killed Ali, those who love Ayesha, bashing Abu Bakr etc.

    There is a real Sunni fear that they will be at risk. The same thing happened with Assad and the Gulf sent those terrorists over. Al Nusra etc.

    If it remains sectarian and contained then we wait until things clear.

    If it leads to another IS, then others will be drawn in.
    All you are saying is that Iraq will continue to be a freaking hostile mess and that more than anything else will prevent Iranian control over the country. The Americans with all their money could not get everyone to play nice and you think the hated broke Persian neighbours could do better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WABs_OOE View Post
    Let's see. We have 3 men with proven track records of seeking nukes, able to field national armies at the division and corps level vs now where a city can be taken or held by 300 men. And ISIL at its height never measured more than 25,000 men.

    Saddam, Qaddafy, and Assad were a 100 times more powerful than what's around today and they were seeking nukes and stocking piling biochems.
    No.
    You don't have three men, you have one ideology symbolized by those three men and that ideology was holding the things together. That was the Ba'ath Party ideology or, lets face it, an Muslim version of the socialism. Now when the ideology is dead, only faith remains and in the case of Middle East, that means perpetual war and never ending cycle of violence.

    As the main source of wealth drains aka the oil,the perspectives for the "new Golden age" will dwindle much faster and in a very short period of time, you will have unsustainable population levels and all the mess that this situation creates. The whole Middle East is basically an matriarchal hell hole where natural laws have been deified for centuries ( the Virgin Маry, the Hurries, the harems, the Arabian nights or if you like to go to Iran aka Persia where we have Scheherazade). This basically means that the identity of the man in the Middle East is totally externally validated, in essence by a woman. His worth is measured by the way how he "controls the woman" but in reality he is controlled by a woman. Other men judge him by that standard, the society judges him by that standard and therefore the whole culture revolves around "objectified" woman figure, but in essence the whole narrative of the Middle East, serves and caters to every primordial woman's need. Without a woman, the middle eastern men loses his purpose and is faced with an absolute void in his soul. That is why he needs to make an fictional construct aka the faith to fill his emptiness. The more narcissistic, the more grandiose that this fictional narrative is, the safer he feels and more "confident" in his "freedom" and identity. His aggression and barbarism is only an reflection of his deep inner fear because deep down he knows who the real master is and that notion rips him apart from the inside and he will take anything to ease that. Bounded to the womb, he has only one choice and only one direction in life and that is to be so called "alpha male", brutal savage and psychopath that cuts heads, rapes and pillages everything around him. His aggression is a pitiful expression of his inner torment, but because his identity is externalized his inner struggle is externalized also. However, since the cause of his problem is inside and he seeks the solutions outside, his existence is doomed to perpetual failure which than boomerangs back to him and increases his frustration which than induces even more anxiety that than propels him to go even further towards the outside.
    He is forever poised on expansion and domination of the external in order sooth his internal emptiness. However since the universe is infinite, all his efforts are doomed to failure and he is chained to the failure forever and as every narcissist he is unable to admit that he is wrong, he will always blame the outside world for his demise, thus his life will be the stage of perpetual conflict,paranoia, aggression and futility of everything he does. Only reason why they were able to endure in this illusion for so long is the reason why this illusion exists in the first place. The womb always rewards the winners, aka the most savage and most dominant ones and trough perpetual conflict, the womb ensures that what it gets is the best of the best. The Womb also despises and hates the smart ones and this ensures that no development is possible on the vertical scale and that only ensures its brutal merciless grip on the whole society. Simply, they don't have a chance, what so ever, because the whole system is based on female pathological desire for safety aka female paranoia from being with a man that she deems "inferior" and not worthy of reproduction.

    I see this every day as I have half of the Benghazi in my neighbourhood and the way how migrants behave, only confirms all this.

    Here is the true reason of the Middle Eastern perpetual turmoil and the reason why they stockpiling chems and seeking nukes.

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other...ind/ar-AAGe4ZD
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    The more I look at the Middle East and the more I understand women, the more I am convinced of the need for ISIL. ISIL is not defeated nor it is destroyed, it is in a state of flux and seeks a new soil where it will re emerge again. The fact that it got hold of the ground, regardless how small it was, is extremely important because it showed to the Muslims that it could be done and that it is possible and ISIL is the true nature and state of Islam, that is its original form. When seen from that perspective, it is completely understandable, at least to me, why Muslims across the whole world are unhappy and why they do the things that they do. Forcing them to accept modernity, forcing them to follow Western models will never work and the more they are forced to accept it, the more they will rebel and fight against it. The idiotic idea about re arranging the middle east into some state where they will have, democracy is so insane and so ridiculous that I don't have the words to describe it. Even if it happens, the article above, shows why it will be in vain. Like the Western democracy is brought down by rabid feminists and leftists, the Islamic democracy will be brought down by women from that article. Since they are the gate keepers of evolution and actually the protectors of the human race, they need the savages to protect them form the "unworthy" ones and they feel safest within the savage society. Actually they don't care about the religion, they are pro savage and the system that constantly breeds savages suits them the best. In their ideal world, the whole setting is the arena where men kill each other and the winner gets the magic triangle. That is what they want, they want natural selection trough tournament to help them pick the best genes in physical sense, since physical is all that they care. All they want is a ton of low IQ aggressive men that cannot control their impulses killing each other so that they can harvest the DNA. No rules, no democracy, no laws nothing, pure jungle where only the strongest survives and propagates its DNA.

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