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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironduke View Post
    K,

    Was wondering if you could give us from a Turkish perspective some insights into ultimate Turkish goals and endgame in Syria.
    actually it is very simple.

    Turkey will not allow any new state within the borders or Syria and/or Iraq. Especially one that is founded by a terrorist organisation like PKK.

    So Turkish operation is not for acquiring land from Syria but at first to prevent any new "state" to reach mediterranean. The second objective will be to ensure what ever necessary to stay that way.

    That's a lie aimed at splitting the US and the Kurds.

    What Mattis said to him was probably something along the lines of : YPG will turn against the terrorist elements.

    He took that and changed it to: Mattis says will turn YPG against PKK.
    Citanon,

    knowing that YPG is already fighting with ISIS, a mention about a "turn" against terrorist elements would be PKK.

    wouldnt you agree?

    as you know PKK IS a terrorist organisation...



    and it is absurd for me too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big K View Post
    Citanon,

    knowing that YPG is already fighting with ISIS, a mention about a "turn" against terrorist elements would be PKK.

    wouldnt you agree?

    as you know PKK IS a terrorist organisation...



    and it is absurd for me too...
    Big K, the IRA and Sinn Fein used to be terrorists too. Then there was the peace accords and now only the extreme elements of those organizations are considered terrorists.

    I'm sure you recall that there was a peace process with the PKK too. That fell apart under murky circumstances. Meanwhile, the US has been working with the Kurds in Iraq and Syria to do the heavy lifting vs IS. Do we think that a Kurd that's our ally suddenly becomes a terrorist when they cross the border to Turkey? Or, are we aiming to create a political settlement that brings in most of PKK but isolates the real extremists?

    Also, if Ash Carter's testimony confuses you, would you not expect Turkey's interactions with IS in the early days, Nusra later, and various other Islamist head choppers in more recent months might just confuse us? Things are very confusing in general between the US and Turkey right now.

    Granted, this war has been confusing and Turkey has had to pick her way through turbulent currents, but the US needs at least one rock solid ally on the ground. We found them in the Kurds. Solid as rock US allies since 1991.

    Turkey has been a bulwark for NATO since its founding, but, unfortunately, under Erdogan, things have obviously changed.

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