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    App its been confirmed sarin is the culprit , Syria is busy denying it all .


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    This could get ugly real fast. Hope to hell that there were no Russians stationed at that base!!

    Syria war: US launches missile strikes following chemical 'attack


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    This was the right move. Limited strike, no warning. Trump needed to respond. Not only Assad, but Kim and all others were watching.

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    citanon,

    no warning.
    not quite. the Russians were warned beforehand-- therefore Assad was also warned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis View Post
    citanon,

    not quite. the Russians were warned beforehand-- therefore Assad was also warned.
    Do you know for a fact?

    Maybe this?

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/the-u...-official.html

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    yes, i'm working off open source media here...not going to, ah, leak...;-)
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    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politi...ary/index.html

    CNN claims there were Russians at the base that was hit. Haven't read all of the story yet to see what their source was, still browsing what news is available. Tread carefully here, this is such a tangled skein of shit- there's no shortage of ways this can blow up the wrong way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parihaka View Post
    This is a mistake.
    Or a bluff that will help a negociated peace.

    But it's a very curious COA,to say the least.I'd say the Deep State has won a round vs Trump fellas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihais View Post
    Or a bluff that will help a negociated peace.

    But it's a very curious COA
    ,to say the least.I'd say the Deep State has won a round vs Trump fellas.
    Yup. My main concern though is the proximity to the Russians. No the Russians do not want to get into a shooting war with the US but such proximity can lead to all sorts of clusterfucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parihaka View Post
    Yup. My main concern though is the proximity to the Russians. No the Russians do not want to get into a shooting war with the US but such proximity can lead to all sorts of clusterfucks.
    The Russians should have thought about that before they let Assad's planes take off with Sarin gas.

    This was clearly designed to test Trump. A weak response here begs for all sorts of future clusterfucks.

    Edit: not to mention the Russians were warned. Apparently the strikes also avoided sections of the base where the Russians were believed to be:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mi...-idUSKBN1790AI
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    Using chemical weapons makes about no sense for the Syrians, and it makes no sense for the Russians to support chemical weapon useage in Syria.
    Only possible outcome was what happened, and even worse in the long term, especially when the US president had expressed in such clear terms a desire to work with them to close the conflict.
    But then one party one leader dictatorships are seldom logical.
    If the great international efforts for peace in Yemen, Iraq and Libya are anything to go by, this whole region will keep being in a lot of suffering for a lot of time.
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    Using chemical weapons makes about no sense for the Syrians.
    Using military against Assad makes about no sense for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post
    Using military against Assad makes about no sense for Trump.
    It does, but only for internal policy reasons. Unlike Obama, Trump is in a cool kids league now, poking Putin with a stick.

    If there will be no additional actions (aka boots on a ground or additional massive airstrikes against Assad) then all this was a one time show to shut up Democrats and McCain.

    Given zero reaction of Russian air defense and moderate reaction from Putin, it looks like a match-fixing.
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    The major reason I was pleased Trump was picked was Clinton had stated publicly she wanted armed conflict with Russia. I was hoping Trump would resist the Perpetual War Party and maybe he thinks this will be a salve but McCain et al won't stop, this will just embolden them.
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