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    Texas father kills man trying to sexually assault daughter, police say | Fox News

    Man beats another man to death for molesting his 4yo daughter (caught in the act) and local law enforcement declines to arrest or cite him... good!

  • #2
    Can it be proven that the man was molesting the daughter? If so, then by all accounts the dad should be commended. If not, then we have to launch an investigation as to whether the dad had justification for killing.

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    • #3
      Very understandable and IMO, appropriate reaction. Unless it isn't true - this guy was simply defending his family - he didn't even shoot the bastard...
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
        Can it be proven that the man was molesting the daughter?
        If it could be proven that easily (read: if there was penetration) they would have said something after the kid was back from the hospital...

        On a side note, "quiet county" as stated in the article? For Texas maybe. At 3.9 per 100,000, the homicide rate in Lavaca County about matches the average for the Northeast USA and is beaten by 21 of the 50 states, most of them having less than half the homicide rate.

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        • #5
          I need a little help here. Why does the author refer to the child molester as, "the victim" Clearly that title goes to the 4 year old.
          Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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          • #6
            I think every Father who has raised a Daughter has contemplated this unthinkable scenario.

            Obviously, if one can prevent it by any means whatsoever, one does. Nothing will get in the way. But the alternate (worse) scenario is what does one do post facto? I can speak for most by saying "I will have my vengeance. It will be complete. And I will not be caught." It might take some time, but it will happen.

            Thank God I raised two to adulthood without any horrors along these lines.

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            • #7
              Dad Not Charged for Killing Daughter's Molester | Fox News Latino

              Dad Not Charged for Killing Daughter's Molester
              Published June 19, 2012
              | Associated Press
              SHINER, Texas – A Texas man who killed a man with his bare fists for molesting his daughter will not be charged with the crime, authorities said Tuesday as they released a dramatic 911 tape of the dad frantically pleading for help before the hired ranch helper died.
              A Lavaca County grand jury Tuesday declined to indict the 23-year-old father in the death of Jesus Mora Flores, 47. Prosecutors said the grand jury reached same conclusion as police after reviewing the evidence: The father was authorized to use deadly force to protect his daughter.
              Flores was killed June 9 on a family ranch so remote that the father is heard profanely screaming at a dispatcher who couldn't locate the property.
              "Come on! This guy is going to die on me!" the father yells. "I don't know what to do!"
              The Associated Press is not identifying the father in order to protect the daughter's identity. The AP does not identify victims of sexual assault.
              The tense, nearly five-minute 911 call begins with the father saying that he "beat up" a man found raping his daughter. The father grows increasingly frazzled, cursing and crying into the phone so loudly at times that the call often becomes inaudible.
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              At one point tells the dispatcher he's going to put the man in his truck and drive him to a hospital before sheriff's deputies finally arrive.
              "He's going to die!" the father screams. "He's going to (expletive) die!"
              V'Anne Huser, the father's attorney, sternly told reporters several times during a news conference at the Lavaca County courthouse that neither the father nor the family will ever give interviews.
              "He's a peaceable soul," Huser said. "He had no intention to kill anybody that day."
              The attack happened on the family's ranch off a quiet, two-lane county road between the farming towns of Shiner and Yoakum. Authorities say a witness saw Flores "forcibly carrying" the girl into a secluded area and then scrambled to find the father. Running toward his daughter's screams, investigators said, the father pulled Flores off his child and "inflicted several blows to the man's head and neck area."
              Emergency crews found Flores' pants and underwear pulled down on his lifeless body by the time they responded to the 911 call. The girl was taken to a hospital and examined, and authorities say forensic evidence and witness accounts corroborated the father's story that his daughter was being sexually molested.
              Flores was not born in the U.S. but was here legally with a green card, authorities said. They said the family had hired him before to help with horses on the ranch.
              Although the father was never arrested, the killing was investigated as a homicide. Huser, the Lavaca County sheriff and the district attorney did not take questions during the news conference.
              On Tuesday, a new "No Trespassing" sign was freshly tacked onto a gate barring entrance down a gravelly, shrub-canopied path leading to the barn and chicken coop on the ranch. Authorities say the attack happened near the barn.
              Across the street, neighbor Michael James Veit, 48, described the father as easygoing and polite — down to always first asking permission to search his property for animals that had wandered off the ranch, even though the families have long known each other.
              "They won't find a jury pool here that will convict him," Veit said.
              No one answered at the father's home. The front yard could pass for a children's playground: blue pinwheels sunk into patchy grass, an above-ground swimming pool, a swing set, a trampoline and a couple of ropes dangling from a tree for swinging. A partial privacy fence is painted powder blue.
              A few miles away, at a home listed as belonging to the father's sister, a woman shouted through the front door that the family had nothing to say.
              Veit's son was a classmate of the father's at Shiner High School in a graduating class of about two dozen. Veit said the young father was never known to be in trouble.
              "Just like a regular kid, went to dances, drank beer like the rest of the kids around here," Veit said. "Never been in trouble. Never, ever. You know, I think justice is served. It's sad a man had to die, but I think anybody would have done that."
              A public records search did not turn up anything for Flores.
              Shiner, a town of about 2,000 people about 80 miles west of San Antonio, revolves around the Spoetzl Brewery that makes Shiner, one of the nation's best-selling independent beers. Even gas stations here sell it on tap.
              Flores' death is only the sixth homicide the sheriff's department has investigated in the last eight years, and half of those killings involved one triple-murder. Shiner residents boast their squeaky-clean image on a highway welcome sign: "The Cleanest Little City in Texas."
              At Werner's Restaurant, customer Gail Allen said she didn't want to speak for all of Shiner, though her comments might as well have.
              "The father has gone through enough," said Allen, 59, who has nine grandchildren. "The little girl is going to be traumatized for life, and the father, too, for what happened. He was protecting his family. Any parent would do that."


              Read more: Dad Not Charged for Killing Daughter's Molester | Fox News Latino

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              • #8
                that guy should get an award from the county for dealing with a child molester as he deserved.
                There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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                • #9
                  That guy also better get some good counseling. I'm not a touchy-feely guy but killing someone, even given those circumstances, is bound to have some consequences.

                  -dale

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dalem View Post
                    That guy also better get some good counseling. I'm not a touchy-feely guy but killing someone, even given those circumstances, is bound to have some consequences.

                    -dale
                    He will undoubtedly feel guilt at the outcome and no matter what is said in his defence by family, friends and the Law he will feel that maybe he has done wrong.

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                    • #11
                      At last , sense prevails IMO .

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