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    Quote Originally Posted by USSWisconsin View Post
    How many people have a urinal in their home or apartment?
    Hardly any, but they don't have to worry about a stranger coming in and urinating all over the toilet seat. Lot of guys use the commodes to urinate because they don't want to stand "Elbow to Elbow" with other guys. Naturally very few of these winners raise and lower the seat.

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    “I live in a 27-person berthing, where we are a tight-knit group,” he said. “It is very easy for us to address issues with individual sailors that violate living standards and fix the issue quickly. Some of my colleagues don’t have that luxury.”
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    27 sailors, 9 seats, the lids always down....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ytlas View Post
    Hardly any, but they don't have to worry about a stranger coming in and urinating all over the toilet seat. Lot of guys use the commodes to urinate because they don't want to stand "Elbow to Elbow" with other guys. Naturally very few of these winners raise and lower the seat.
    US Navy has a long history of leaving the lid down....

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    They have some nice trough urinals aboard the Olympia.

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    The island taking shape.

    This photo shows the a lower section of the island, the upper section was previously moved outdoors.

    http://www.navy.mil/management/photo...-WL435-049.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by USSWisconsin View Post
    How many people have a urinal in their home or apartment?
    That depends. Some look like.......sinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    That depends. Some look like.......sinks.
    I believe those are called "bidets", or something Frenchy like that; my oldest brother had one installed in his house hooked directly up to the hot-water line (ow!).
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    I believe pissoir is a better then bidets french word.

    Would the sailors use these:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch View Post
    I believe those are called "bidets", or something Frenchy like that; my oldest brother had one installed in his house hooked directly up to the hot-water line (ow!).
    A bidet is not using for pissing! It's using for washing the private areas!

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    Dok, I'm pretty sure the sailors would use these:

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    good way to look where they pee.

    But then... where is the punishment in cleaning these toilets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doktor View Post

    But then... where is the punishment in cleaning these toilets?
    The Navy will find a way.

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    Looks like they may be having some more problems with EMALS...

    EMALS Set As Subprogram With 2011 Baseline To Avoid Nunn-McCurdy Unit Cost Breach

    9/19/2012

    The Pentagon has designated the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System as a major subprogram of the CVN-78 Ford-class aircraft carrier to help Congress obtain visibility into its development and procurement costs, according to a recent letter that Defense Department acquisition chief Frank Kendall sent to lawmakers.

    In the Aug. 24 letter, Kendall writes that he directed the Navy to create the subprogram with an original acquisition baseline that "reflects a reasonable allocation of the costs of the subprogram" as of the end of December 2011.

    This date corresponds with the enactment of the Fiscal Year 2012 National Defense Authorization Act calling for such a move.

    EMALS is designed to replace existing steam catapults by using an "electrically generated, moving magnetic field to propel aircraft to launch speed," according to a 2007 Government Accountability Office report on the aircraft carrier.

    If DOD used an original baseline for EMALS, based on when the nuclear aircraft carrier program initiation occurred, it would have immediately resulted in a critical unit cost breach for the subprogram, triggering a Nunn-McCurdy review of the entire CVN-78 program, Kendall writes.

    "This would result in resetting the original baseline for the entire CVN-78 program, reducing Congress's ability to track the CVN-78 program's original baseline, while also imposing a significant administrative burden on the department," Kendall writes.

    But by setting the original baseline when DOD did, it will produce the same baseline for the subprogram as would have come out of the Nunn-McCurdy review, while enabling the department to keep reporting on the 2004 original baseline for the carrier subprogram, the letter states.

    "This approach best matches our understanding of congressional intent in these unique circumstances," Kendall writes, acknowledging that the circumstances surrounding this designation are "clearly distinct from the department's normal practice for subprogram designations.

    "The rest of the CVN-78 program is established as the other subprogram, retaining the original baseline from the 2004 milestone B decision, while being updated to remove the costs of EMALS, Kendall writes.

    Navy spokeswoman Capt. Cate Mueller said that the Navy does not yet have a baseline figure for the EMALS subprogram, noting the Navy intends to use FY-12 as the timing and is still "doing the work of breaking out a baseline figure to use from the overall cost of the CVN-78."

    A Navy source said the new baselines will be reflected in the December 2012 Selected Acquisition Report.

    The Pentagon's decision to set the baseline last year to avoid a Nunn-McCurdy breach, has been called a "reasonable" approach by a congressional source, noting that the Navy has been managing EMALS as a separate acquisition program for a couple years now, and that this action just ratifies what the service has been doing.

    The FY-12 defense authorization law required the defense secretary to designate the EMALS development and procurement program as a major subprogram of the CVN-78 Ford-class aircraft carrier major defense acquisition program within 30 days of the law's Dec. 31, 2011, enactment.

    "The secretary may cease such designation after the date on which the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System is certified as operationally effective and suitable by the director of operational test and evaluation," the law states.

    Mueller said the delay in designation was due to the time taken to coordinate between the Navy and the Office of the Secretary of Defense.

    She said the DOT&E certification is expected in mid-2018.

    In the House's report accompanying its version of the FY-12 authorization bill, lawmakers wrote that they are aware that the program is going through its land-based testing, but "earlier problems in development have reduced almost all schedule margin in order to make the date the equipment must be in the shipyard for installation in the first ship of the class."

    "The committee acknowledges elevating EMALS to a major subprogram will provide the proper oversight to this critical system as it continues its development and production," the House report continued.

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    Clear speak....

    "The rest of the CVN-78 program is established as the other subprogram, retaining the original baseline from the 2004 milestone B decision, while being updated to remove the costs of EMALS, Kendall writes. "

    IS the sentence meant to convey the message that the US Navy is reviewing the cost to drop EMALS?

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    The heaviest of the ship's lifts has been installed.
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    NEWPORT NEWS, Va., Oct. 5, 2012 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Huntington Ingalls Industries (NYSE:HII) announced today that its Newport News Shipbuilding (NNS) division placed a 1,026-metric ton unit — roughly the weight of six Boeing 747 commercial airplanes — onto the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) Thursday.

    A photo accompanying this release is available at http://media.globenewswire.com/hii/m...ml?pkgid=15060

    "This is the heaviest unit to be moved during the ship's construction and the largest lift our crane has ever made," said Rolf Bartschi, NNS' vice president of CVN 78 carrier construction. "This lift represents the strategic construction improvements of the Ford-class carriers. The concept during design of the ship was to build larger units than were built on the Nimitz-class carriers, resulting in fewer crane lifts to the dry dock. This lift is a significant achievement for our shipbuilding team on this first-of-class ship and reflects the pride and capability of the entire team."

    Gerald R. Ford is being built using modular construction, a process where smaller sections of the ship are welded together to form large structural units, outfitting is installed, and the large unit is lifted into the dry dock. Of the nearly 500 total structural lifts needed to complete the ship, 435 have been accomplished. The lifts are accomplished using the shipyard's 1,050-metric-ton gantry crane, one of the largest in the Western Hemisphere.

    At 128 feet wide and 128 feet long, the gallery deck to flight deck bridge assembly comprises 14 steel sections and includes firefighting, jet fuel and catapult systems, jet blast deflectors and electrical servicing stations. Construction of the gallery deck to flight deck bridge assembly began in October 2011.

    Gerald R. Ford represents the next-generation class of aircraft carriers. The first-in-class ship features a new nuclear power plant, a redesigned island, electromagnetic catapults, improved weapons movement, an enhanced flight deck capable of increased aircraft sortie rates, and growth margin for future technologies and reduced manning. Ford has been under construction since November 2009. The ship is more than 88 percent structurally complete and is scheduled to launch in 2013 and deliver to the U.S. Navy in 2015.
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